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Old 05-12-2011, 11:29 AM
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I've been testing a lot to get the max speed out of the 109E-3 this is the best;

-set oil and water radiator open for 50%, is enough no overheatings occured!;
-set elevator trim to -1, this keeps nose down, build up speed;
-set prop settings to 80%.(10:10 position)
-keep throttle 100% during dogfight.

Doing this you can build up speed to around 500 Kph.
Close in on enemy try to cripple with few canon shot, finish it off with MG.
Avoid turning with enemy, only do this with superior energy.

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Old 05-12-2011, 11:48 AM
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I've been testing a lot to get the max speed out of the 109E-3 this is the best;

-set oil and water radiator open for 50%, is enough no overheatings occured!;
-set elevator trim to -1, this keeps nose down, build up speed;
-set prop settings to 80%.
-keep throttle 100% during dogfight.

Doing this you can build up speed to around 500 Kph.
Close in on enemy try to cripple with few canon shot, finish it off with MG.
Avoid turning with enemy, only do this with superior energy.

Success!!
why prop 80% and not 100% ? isnt 100% most power forward meaning max speed?
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:53 AM
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because the 109E-3 in CoD has no CSP unit...
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:18 PM
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why prop 80% and not 100% ? isnt 100% most power forward meaning max speed?
You can not get maximum speed with 100%. It's more like a first gear. I use it only for take offs.
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-set prop settings to 80%.

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You cannot say that across the board! Since the pitch of the 109 is entirely manual you will have to readjust it permanently in order to receive maximal performance. There is no single pitchsetting that works for everything.

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Old 05-12-2011, 01:24 PM
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You cannot say that across the board! Since the pitch of the 109 is entirely manual you will have to readjust it permanently in order to receive maximal performance. There is no single pitchsetting that works for everything.

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No for take offs I use 100%, but max speed is then around 400 Kph.

But critical is of course dogfight against Spit.
Using the 80% prop I can get to speed of around 500 Kph, keep throttle to 100% open!
No tight turns!
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:56 PM
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Theres is a dial with two needles bellow the eng pressure gauge

Pls refer to the standard historical German UHR langage (watch) to descibe your pich setting.

For exemple 100% (à la Il2) = 12Hr
Take off : 11H30
High power Cruise (combat cruise) : ard 9Hr30
Lean power cruise (long range) : ard 8H30 or bellow

Those value (except the last one wich I do not knwow nothing abt) are historicals value for the E. It might be interesting to refer to interviews of the few Warbird pilots qualified on the type (two E fly in historical configuration nowadays - I remember reading those values somewhere)

During fight slightly over revs your standart settings (let's says 10h upon the merge) and then keep an eyes on the dial to keep rpm cte. If you need more power in a step climb add rpm. On the contrary on the dive lower your rpm.

In combat, too much Overreeving will increase the risk of overheating or damaging/breaking your engine.

the 109 engine is really easy to manage during a fight in the sim as it was in RL thx to its injection system.

NOte : keep your emergency boost for... emergency use. You leave in dusts anything given your actual E state and egress trajectory.


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Old 05-12-2011, 04:26 PM
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+1 to the above post, i use somewhat similar settings and i found them out simply by experimenting in free flight. It can easily make 500km/h IAS at low altitudes on combat power settings and can also easily cruise at or above 400km/h IAS with 1.2 Ata and the pitch indicator at the 10:10 position.


An easy analogy to remember is that it works like shifting gears in a manual transmission car, lower RPM is like higher gears and higher RPM is lower gears. This means that to get the most speed in a dive or in level flight you actually have to lower the RPMs a bit (go to a higher gear). If on the other hand you want to limit your speed in the dive, pull the throttle a bit back and increase the RPMs, the blades will meet the air in more of a "flat" way but since the engine is throttle back they are semi-windmilling and this acts as an airbrake.

In a similar fashion, higher RPM means lower top speeds but faster response to throttle changes, so you increase them in the climb as your speed drops (it's like shifting down a gear and pressing the gas pedal to climb over a hill in your car).

I've found the useful powerband to be between 2100 and 2600 RPM (just don't exceed 2500 for too much time), i don't know if this corresponds to historical values and how much more i could improve it but it certainly seems to leave everything in the dust if flown like that so it works good enough for the time being.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:08 PM
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Can you get 500kph TAS at sea level? Best I can get is 465kph, and yes that is well trimmed and radiators and oil coolers more than 50% closed. 2200-2500 RPM though this makes zero difference to me in speed runs.

Can you also elaborate on what you define as low alt?

Maybe you could share a trak with us. Take a 109 on the channel mission, fly at SL as fast as you can at direction 180 and show us how the 109 can get close to 500kph at SL.

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:13 AM
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I'm not sure it's dead-on 500, it might be 485, but it's certainly closer than most people get. The main trick is to "switch your gears" when they peak, that is, change prop-pitch each time you see your airspeed not increasing anymore.

I'll try to remember to make a track tomorrow (it's a bit late currently) and upload it, it would be good practice for me too and maybe i'll pick up an extra trick or two during the process. Cheers
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