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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-29-2011, 02:07 PM
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I'm not condemning it just because it looks like green puke. It also plays like crap on a tiny map.
LOL you're right about that.
IL2 or CloD is way ahead re gameplay.

The one thing WoP does extremely well is how it reflects the messyness of the real world.
Il2 and now CloD are too clean looking.
CloD needs a bit more grime.

Cracked windows, potholes patched tarmac , as if it's a live world.
A sort of weathering.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:09 PM
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how landscape elements are put/mixed together, how they appear from cockpit views (specially in low level pass); how they maintain their dignity if viewed in far background
WoP can do all that because it's an arcade game on a tiny map with green puke covering up all the stuff that doesn't look quite so good.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:10 PM
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LOL you're right about that.
IL2 or CloD is way ahead re gameplay.

The one thing WoP does extremely well is how it reflects the messyness of the real world.
Il2 and now CloD are too clean looking.
CloD needs a bit more grime.

Cracked windows, potholes patched tarmac , as if it's a live world.
A sort of weathering.


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Old 04-29-2011, 02:10 PM
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Il2 and now CloD are too clean looking.
CloD needs a bit more grime.

Cracked windows, potholes patched tarmac , as if it's a live world.
A sort of weathering.
Grime kills FPS.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:16 PM
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WoP can do all that because it's an arcade game on a tiny map with green puke covering up all the stuff that doesn't look quite so good.
Well those are actually separate issues.
It's kinda like saying Cindy Crawford is ugly beacuse she has a mole and doesn't play rugby.(Choice of Cindy does put my age into perspective LOL)

It's more like...
It looks good but it's covered in green puke and is arcadey.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:37 PM
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I cleaned the greenpuke....
C'mon some serenity in judging this...
CoD.jpg WoP.jpg

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Old 04-29-2011, 02:39 PM
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Well those are actually separate issues.
It's kinda like saying Cindy Crawford is ugly beacuse she has a mole and doesn't play rugby.(Choice of Cindy does put my age into perspective LOL)

It's more like...
It looks good but it's covered in green puke and is arcadey.
No, they're not separate things. If you have a tiny map you can display things up close that you can't in a game with a huge map. A huge map ties up a lot of memory tracking things you can't see, while the game with the tiny map can use that memory to display more details up close.

The green puke can be used to hide things that don't look so good. In IL-2 (and from what I have heard, CoD) buildings tend to "pop up" in the distance. WoP uses green puke to hide that.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:39 PM
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Whether or not the game looks like the US vs England is not the point. The point is that CoD looks like real life while WoP looks like green puke.
As I have attempted to explain, I regularly fly over the South of England and, IMHO, it doesn't look much like CloD. The field colours are different, the fields usually (but not always) have dark hedges at their boundaries and the trees are darker and often occur in RoF-style small patches of woodland. If you removed the filters from WoP it would be much more like what I see in real life than does CloD. I have even posted photographs of the SW of England to show what I mean. Now, you are welcome to continue to insist that I am wrong, but if you do, it's hard to imagine that anything at all would convince you otherwise.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:44 PM
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As I have attempted to explain, I regularly fly over the South of England and, IMHO, it doesn't look much like CloD.
And I linked to a pilot who flies over Kent and thinks that the CoD colors look fine. I've seen the photographs. They are not nearly as compelling as you seem to think they are, and I have a lot of experience with aviation photography.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:51 PM
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I cleaned the greenpuke....
C'mon some serenity in judging this...
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If you were looking for images where WoP looks better than CoD, you made a very poor choice. That CoD image almost looks like a photo.
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