Cliffs of Dover Is The Best. But Some Of You Don't Appreciate It.

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

Hi all,
....The problem is that many of us do not have systems that can manage the demands of Cliffs of Dover. That is NOT the developer's fault....

duuud I have i7920@3.5 GHZ, GTX470 Twin frozr2 OC to 750Mhz on the core, 6GB DDR3 RAM (running at 1333Mhz), win7 64 bit and I still have probs. Yeah I have nice FPS but the game is not smooth at all, spec. above the land. So what are you talking about. This sim is still not optimised well.....we hope it will be....

[SNAFU]

Originally Posted by Blue Scorpion

Except Oleg has nothing to do with this anymore, and what's more, people so conveniently forget, when IL2 was first released it was the only title in their stable, it was their only bread and butter, so they continued to work and polish with Oleg driving for perfection.

That is no longer the case, they have grown, and have many projects now, all deserving attention, and the original driving force has left the building along with Elvis. There are no guarantees whatsoever this title will get the same level or longevity of attention as IL2 , indeed there are many factors against that happening now.

People keep talking, banging on and on, saying it will be great in a year, or two; but in truth, they do not have a damn clue what level of support this title is likely to get. Moreover, the incessant droning about its rosy future, is just as annoying as those complaining, because the product as it stands TODAY is a broken mess, and Luthier and co have our money in their pockets now, today, not two years from now.

Everyone posting about how grand it will all be when fixed and branding everyone who disagrees is a "hater" or "troll" and claiming they should not post, should take a long hard look in that mirror. You are expressing an opinion, but would deny others the right to express theirs, simply because they disagree with you; and that my friends, makes you one and all, a bunch of hypocrites'; a beast, far worse than those who quite rightly complain about something they have paid for not working as advertised.

I second that, but only because I am looking for a disctraction from work...

I refrained from buying CoD until last Sunday, because I did not want to support UBI, which I thoutht to be the driving factor for the situation we are in. Finally I bought it via Steam, because I want to support simulation software developent generally. I also installed it, set all setting on max and tested a littel. London was flyable with around 25 FPS in low altitudes. LeHavre wasn´t, down to 12 FPS. Over sea I got 160+FPS (i know meaningless). Above 2000m the landscape looks messed up on highest settings, no joy. I don´t mention the stutters I had even with 80FPS indicated by FRAPS. What surprised me, was that my CPU workload never was higher than 25%, well, RAM was not visable touched (I7 2600 at stock 3,4GHz/1333MHz 8GB RAM/ ATI 6950-2GB). I don´t mind that, I was expecting this, so what? But I will not waste my time with CTDs, tinkering my system, just to get frustrated by random bugs of an faulty products. That`s the job of testers.

So, I would have even give the team 100 Euro or more, if they would have frankly said something like: " Hey folks. We faced some problems, we didn´t expect, we made mistakes in management and some wrong decisions, but we learnt a lot and at the end of the day, we didn´t meet our objective and the market is unforgiving. We would like to finish the programm, but we ran out of money. We give you access to the alpha-Version for a donation of 100€..."

But the way they choose to go, is unprofessional IMHO and not really satisfying. I have doubts, as the ones raised by Blue Scorpion.

I donated, bought a lizence for the product and hope they will continue support and overcome their problems in their management, in their software and their product. But I am not that naive to suppose that their success is granted. I will check again in 6 months or a year.

But now back to RoF...

[Kwiatek]

COD is far away from the best game. It is not even in half road.

I dont like land graphic at all, dont like ghost trees and ghost antena radars, dont like the way planes are flying (not immersion), dont like flight model and performacne of planes faults, dont like FF dont work, dont like V sync dont work, dont like that i dont have smooth ZOOM like in other games ( it is XXI centaury you know), dont like buggy DM and FM influence, dont like sounds, dont like optimalization of these game.

Only thing is nice are cocpits with shadows but it cut a lot fps now and some engine managment feature ( but still it is far from realistic and has many faults).

Maby but many in a year or so these game will be better and would have chance. But now i bought it and really i dont feel i want to play it in such state. Im playing IL2 Sturmovik from beggining, playing LOMAC ( Flanker 2.5 - Lock ON - FC2), playing ROF from beggining but i cant really play COD now

[patrat1]

V synch works for me.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

duuud I have i7920@3.5 GHZ, GTX470 Twin frozr2 OC to 750Mhz on the core, 6GB DDR3 RAM (running at 1333Mhz), win7 64 bit and I still have probs. Yeah I have nice FPS but the game is not smooth at all, spec. above the land. So what are you talking about. This sim is still not optimised well.....we hope it will be....

Have you tried disabling the AERO function via rightklick on the desktop? I did that yesterday and it worked wonders. It didnt increase FPS but made the gameplay MCUH mor smooth. Literally no stutters anymore. Not even over a big city - treetop.

Winger


My System:
Core i7 920 @4 GHz
GTX480 SLI (SLI currently disabled)
6GB GSKILL Ripjaws

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by robtek

He definitively isn't the minority!
He belongs imho to the quiet majority of more "mature" forum members who have the patience and know from past experience what to expect from OM.
This sim isn't ready, yet.
But it will be -> the future is bright.
Even with all the bugs, for me this sim has degraded IL2-1946 to arcade, it is just no fun anymore.

OP +100. The silent majority, those of us who saw Forgotten Battles blossom into 1946 have the maturity and insight to understand greatness doesn't happen overnight it takes time and perseverance. Luthier will deliver and I don't have any doubt, this isn't just one game it's the new engine that'll support 10-15 years of simming, they're not gonna walk away.

[Fjordmonkey]

I see that there's many from the Instant Gratification-crowd that I'm used to dealing with in MMO's here. True, CoD wasn't released in a stellar shape. I'll ive you that. I'll also give you the point on the sim being unplayable for many, and that there's still bugs, issues and the like.

Get over it. You've bought the game that you've waited 8+ years on. You can wait a few weeks/months more for the issues to be solved. So you spent $50 (or €50 in my case) on a product that turned out less than stellar, but one that has a bright future ahead of it. Surely you can see this? Or are you too blind?

1C deserves praise for actually being on the ball when it comes to patches etc. Don't know about you, but for me there's been leaps and bounds in both playability and performance over the last few weeks, and that's more than enough to offset any ire I might have had due to the state of the game at launch. Then again, it might be extensive playing of MMO's that have taught me to have patience when it comes to any piece of software out there, regardless of type.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

I'm too busy building missions and having fun. (currently building a series of missions for a RAF Squadron based in the Portsmouth area as it defends the docks etc.) Choose to believe what I am saying or not, either way it doesn't concern me.

If I was sitting on the UBI or 1C board, I would put up a server for people like you to upload missions, campaigns, skins, settings etc, similar to Mission4today and other sites. One of th etings thal really made IL2 enjoyable was all the great usermade material. One of the ways of making up for the lack of it in the release wersion of CoD would have been to offer a "one stop" site for content.

Originally Posted by Winger

Have you tried disabling the AERO function via rightklick on the desktop? I did that yesterday and it worked wonders. It didnt increase FPS but made the gameplay MCUH mor smooth. Literally no stutters anymore. Not even over a big city - treetop.

Winger


My System:
Core i7 920 @4 GHz
GTX480 SLI (SLI currently disabled)
6GB GSKILL Ripjaws

winger thanks for the tip mate...I already did that...

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Blue Scorpion

Except Oleg has nothing to do with this anymore, and what's more, people so conveniently forget, when IL2 was first released it was the only title in their stable, it was their only bread and butter, so they continued to work and polish with Oleg driving for perfection.

That is no longer the case, they have grown, and have many projects now, all deserving attention, and the original driving force has left the building along with Elvis. There are no guarantees whatsoever this title will get the same level or longevity of attention as IL2 , indeed there are many factors against that happening now.

People keep talking, banging on and on, saying it will be great in a year, or two; but in truth, they do not have a damn clue what level of support this title is likely to get. Moreover, the incessant droning about its rosy future, is just as annoying as those complaining, because the product as it stands TODAY is a broken mess, and Luthier and co have our money in their pockets now, today, not two years from now.

Everyone posting about how grand it will all be when fixed and branding everyone who disagrees is a "hater" or "troll" and claiming they should not post, should take a long hard look in that mirror. You are expressing an opinion, but would deny others the right to express theirs, simply because they disagree with you; and that my friends, makes you one and all, a bunch of hypocrites'; a beast, far worse than those who quite rightly complain about something they have paid for not working as advertised.

Oleg have NOT washed his hands and left the building, i couldn't even if he wanted to.

And thats more or less quoted from Luthier.


Besides, everyone assumes Oleg is the only one who knows what he is doing, he havent done all this by him self u know.