Let's Put this Battle of Britain thing in Historical Context..

[SacaSoh]

Originally Posted by Brain32

Apparently it was intercontinental warfare as Avro is from England but not Europe...

I say let's get back to framerate issues as this could go bad and is pointless from the start...

Without good FPS I can't help the virtual nazis overcome UK! After the beta is released maybe this thread will have some value.

[[URU]AkeR]

Please not politics we have enough with FM DM tracers stutters etc!!!!

[xnomad]

Well Stephen Bungay put it very well in his book "The most dangerous enemy" (If you haven't already read it then get a copy, it will make you appreciate the game a lot more too.)

If Britain hadn't won the BOB, then the two likely alternatives would have been.

The entire European continent would have been under Nazi rule, or the more likely outcome would have been that the entire European continent would have been under communist rule, and for a very long time. Not really a good result for humanity in either case.

America could never have entered the war in Europe if it weren't for the island of Britain from which the allies could launch the invasion. What were they going to do launch from New York?

The Battle of Britain is of huge importance don't underestimate it.

[Redroach]

WoW, if there is a thread likely to invoke an instance of Godwin's law, this is it!

Nobody can seriously contest that the BoB was an important... well, 'turning point' in WWII. However, even if the battle had been lost by Britain, all hope wouldn't have been gone. With Churchill, Britain certainly wouldn't have given up and German High Command did only half-heartedly prepare for an invasion of England - they were still expecting, pretty seriously, to make peace with Britain.
And, as this wouldn't materialize, Germany would have to invade, challenging the huge Royal Navy and the well-prepared, well-motivated Home Defence. On top of this, there would be inadequate equipment on the German side - river barges as troop transport which capsize in all but the calmest seas, plus the Luftwaffe had already expended nearly half their Ju52 fleet over the Netherlands, so airborne assault troops would be hampered as well.

Additionally, as Churchill stated in his "we will fight on the beaches", at least part of the Royal navy would have carried on "beyond the seas".

[baronWastelan]

If Britain hadn't won the BoB, America would still have been fine, and I'd still be driving a Porsche today. Or at least a KdF Wagen.

[MadTommy]

Don't forget no invasion could have happened without the destruction of the Royal Navy too.. BoB was very important, but don't believe all the war propaganda.

Originally Posted by [URU]AkeR

Please not politics we have enough with FM DM tracers stutters etc!!!!

Politics on game forums is always 100% win!

Get a bucket of salt, a group of kids, some angry adults.. every now and then give it a little stir... sit back and enjoy. Perfect recipe for an amusing thread

(but i'm a little disappointed at the lack such heated behaviour in this thread.. you have let me down! Lets have some rants, flaming and general mayhem!)

Edit: pls apply some of the above salt to this post

[bongodriver]

Politics on game forums is always 100% win!

Get a bucket of salt, a group of kids, some angry adults.. every now and then give it a little stir... sit back and enjoy. Perfect recipe for an amusing thread

(but i'm a little disappointed at the lack such heated behaviour in this thread.. you have let me down! Lets have some rants, flaming and general mayhem!)

Edit: pls apply some of the above salt to this post

+1

[Wurschtie]

Sorry to not give you salt ...

This sim, as we play it today, has - for the most people - almost nothing to do with the war itself, or the politics.

For me, it's about cool badass machines with props and guns. As you know, we all like badass machines. And we like them even more if they make a lot of sound and kaboom. That's manly. Very manly.

If there was a sim about flying around pregnant mothers in a medical helicopter transport, I would play it. Because it's about badass machines with rotors that make a hell lot of a sound ...

But you are right. We shouldn't forget about the war, and we should think to ourselves from time to time. Almost everyone in Europe has a very own story of the war in his family, and that should not be forgotten. And it should be looked at rather from the standpoint of humanity, than from any of the political standpoints of that time. Because luckily, the political standpoints at that time don't play a significant role anymore.

Originally Posted by MadTommy

Err what historical context are you attempting to put it in? As i see no historical context in your post.

This game represents a tiny battle nothing like Stalingrad. It was important but it certainly was not huge or even large.

*GASP* Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , are you serious? If Germany took over the UK then they take over the world no question. What other country had any Army at the time even capable of defending against German warefare? China? Japan? No way. The Uk ended up being the key launch pad for the eventual downfall of Hitler.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by machoo

*GASP* Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , are you serious? If Germany took over the UK then they take over the world no question. What other country had any Army at the time even capable of defending against German warefare? China? Japan? No way. The Uk ended up being the key launch pad for the eventual downfall of Hitler.

Even though I am German, I doubt that conclusion very much. Germany would have been with Europe already very over stretched, also the States started rather early with their "Manhatten Project". I would say it would have resulted in some European Hiroshimas. As the German leaders at the time where known for making a lot of big blunders, there is no way I would see that it was even vaguely possible to invade either the southern or northern American continent. I think things just would have gotten a step more uglier.