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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:23 AM
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I just realised that it might not have been me actually, I re read the entire thread....I guess I'm getting jumpy.....my bad.

in actual fact having re read the post I will withdraw my general statement on this, I think I am on a different wavelength...excuse the pun, of course instruments do bounce in turbulence and in severe engine rough running conditions, and to be honest I was concentrating on an exessive bounce with the RPM needle (this I do feel needs a tweaking)
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:32 AM
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I was concentrating on an exessive bounce with the RPM needle (this I do feel needs a tweaking)
hmm and I have to admit you're right about that. The rpm needle bounces more than, for example, the airspeed indicator, which is, at a first glance, not really obvious to me, too (maybe it's due to different springs in the instruments?!?).

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:45 AM
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I love how people here are comparing modern light aircraft with a 1940s war time fighter built as quickly as possible to get to the front line I doubt you could even compare a flying spit to what they had back then. I.e. Regulations and limitations surviving ww2 aircraft have to meet.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:51 AM
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I love how people here are comparing modern light aircraft with a 1940s war time fighter built as quickly as possible to get to the front line I doubt you could even compare a flying spit to what they had back then. I.e. Regulations and limitations surviving ww2 aircraft have to meet.
me personally am basing it on actual experience in the Tiger moth, Stearman and (despite being post war) percival prentice, in terms of instrumentation there are no regulations regarding the instruments for aircraft like the spit, these aircraft fly on 'permit to fly' which is the most basic airworthiness certification, even the tigers and Stearmans on public transport C of A don't have the need for modern instruments because they are certified for day VFR flight only.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:29 AM
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me personally am basing it on actual experience in the Tiger moth, Stearman and (despite being post war) percival prentice, in terms of instrumentation there are no regulations regarding the instruments for aircraft like the spit, these aircraft fly on 'permit to fly' which is the most basic airworthiness certification, even the tigers and Stearmans on public transport C of A don't have the need for modern instruments because they are certified for day VFR flight only.
Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:46 AM
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Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
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Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
I trust the developers, having spent years on this game, along with their flight testers, one thousand times more than such statements, yes.
After all, these bouncing needles certainly didn't sneak in as bugs, the way they behave.
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I trust the developers, having spent years on this game, along with their flight testers, one thousand times more than such statements, yes.
After all, these bouncing needles certainly didn't sneak in as bugs, the way they behave.
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That's simply because you don't know how instruments work. And this is not meant to be an offence,it's just a friendly statement. If more than 3 people with experience in aviation tell you it's overmodelled,just take it for good,it's called common sense man..

Oscillation can happen on vacuum instruments (altimeter,anemometer etc..),but the RPM gauge is connected by means of a flex cable like in your car,such oscillations happen only if the gauge is faulty or your engine is actually oscillating in RPM.. you get vibrations,lots of them,but not oscillations..
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:12 PM
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The only thing I have noticed is that the compass seems to be set for North at the start of each mission no matter which way your plane is facing and as such you always have to alter it manually to suit the whiskey gauge - which is nigh on impossible as you cannot see that one clearly at all. I once found myself over France thinking it was England because of this bug
yes that is annoying, I'd like to see a key assignment for a quick sync feature....
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The RAF compass has tooltips only for the heading selector ring (increase/decrease click-spots) and lacks the actual readout tooltip of the current heading. The Luftwaffe one has both, the increase/decrease functions when you mouse over it close to the center and the current heading when you mouse over the rest of it.

In the Bf-110 or Ju88 for example, i just mouse over the magnetic compass before take-off to see the tooltip, then input that into the gyro-compass.

In the RAF aircraft i have to move the view around a bit which is not a big problem, but i don't know how to read the compass

A small workaround for the RAF compass is to align the heading selector with the compass arms and read-out the selector's value. I then open the map and look which way i'm facing on mission start (this needs map icons to be on though), so i can discard the reciprocal heading of my current one. So, if i align it and it says 270 while i'm facing east, i know it's 90 degrees. I then turn the gyro-compass to read 90 degrees and start my take-off.

It would be much simpler if it had a tooltip or i actually knew how to read it
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