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Old 03-24-2011, 10:56 PM
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I want to confirm that everything said here is true, we have implemented some drastic features for anti-epilepsy protection which are affecting FPS and killing SLI support.

We CANNOT make these optional. That will allow an opportunistic or an unfortunate person suffering from epilepsy to sue Ubisoft for damages and literally close down the studio for good.

This was a stop-gap measure to make sure the game gets released. As I explained in the clumsily-translated Russian article, everything in our game causes seizures - gunfire, explosions, fire, sun passing behind canopy framework, etc. Basically flight sims are an epileptic's nightmare.

We'll work to improve the framerate and perhaps address individual issues individually as opposed to applying a single rough post-effect filter, but it is basically a very sad situation. Something completely unrelated and unexpected came to our sim with a giant axe and whacked at it at the last moment. We just didn't have time to properly address it.
That's pretty bad and i don't say this to blame you, in fact i can feel your frustration.

If they really did wait until the last possible moment to demand this feature from you they obviously don't know who they're messing with...the local forum forum brigade will swiftly migrate to the Ubi forums and start applying some pressure to put mildly, not to mention that we won't be arguing among ourselves this time

Let's hope a solution can be found. On the other hand, i don't really know what that would entail for the graphics fidelity of the sim even if frame rates are fixed.

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Old 03-24-2011, 10:58 PM
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That's pretty bad and i don't say this to blame you, in fact i can feel your frustration.

If they really did wait until the last possible moment to demand this feature from you they obviously don't know who they're messing with...the local forum forum brigade will swiftly migrate to the Ubi forums and start applying some pressure to put mildly, not to mention that we won't be arguing among ourselves this time
Already there and shouting loudly, Any support would be greatly appricated.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:59 PM
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If anyone can get this news out to sites like Kotaku and other mainstream game blogs, I'm sure they'd run it as a story.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:59 PM
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Ubisoft have had this development rule for over 3 yrs, its an oversight from the Dev's not Ubisoft.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:04 PM
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Ubisoft have had this development rule for over 3 yrs, its an oversight from the Dev's not Ubisoft.
Ilya said that Ubisoft changed their policy on epilepsy 1 year ago. The change impacted on everything that was graphics in CoD. THe last 3 months of CoD's development were spent on matching the sim to the Ubisoft epilepsy spec.

Its all in this thread:
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1571060
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:16 PM
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Ilya said that Ubisoft changed their policy on epilepsy 1 year ago. The change impacted on everything that was graphics in CoD. THe last 3 months of CoD's development were spent on matching the sim to the Ubisoft epilepsy spec.

Its all in this thread:
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...=1#post1571060
Should've gone with a different publisher. I mean really. And not stating it before release even though they knew there would be a problem? Did they think nobody would notice? I'm disapointed. I'll stick with buying the game (I'd call it a sim but I think having being played, I'll stick with game) even if I won't be able to play it if only to support development, but this is pathetic and it's not just Ubi who're implicated.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:23 PM
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Should've gone with a different publisher. I mean really. And not stating it before release even though they knew there would be a problem? Did they think nobody would notice? I'm disapointed. I'll stick with buying the game (I'd call it a sim but I think having being played, I'll stick with game) even if I won't be able to play it if only to support development, but this is pathetic and it's not just Ubi who're implicated.
THey didn't state before release because theyr were working on it non stop, there is a 500mb patch launched already. They were hoping to sort things out before, or immediately after the launch of the sim. It didnt work out, the problem is here and its big.

There is hope that Russian publisher 1C will back down on this epilepsy crap. Where that would leave western gamers- do not know.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:30 PM
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THey didn't state before release because theyr were working on it non stop, there is a 500mb patch launched already. They were hoping to sort things out before, or immediately after the launch of the sim. It didnt work out, the problem is here and its big.

There is hope that Russian publisher 1C will back down on this epilepsy crap. Where that would leave western gamers- do not know.
Explains why Oleg and Luthier disapearred four weeks ago. Good luck to them sorting it out. I wonder how their Russian customers feel having had their sim release screwed by a western publisher? It's clear that Ubi require this filter to be ON in any game sold in its sphere. That should solve the epilepsy problem as given its current state nobody will be playing it.

And I'd just like to add that making the game safe for epileptics is and admirable and righteous thing that should be an industry wide aspiration.

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:53 PM
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And I'd just like to add that making the game safe for epileptics is and admirable and righteous thing that should be an industry wide aspiration.
+1 however this kind of thing takes time to implement. And UBI wouldve known that to enforce this on Ilya and Co. would cause a lot of problems particularily so late in development.

Also, no imagery on TV and PC can prevent Epilepsy, im sure that scientists can prove that, that is a total myth, and totally irresponsible claim. Just switching on a Nintendo couldve given that boy a seizure. Perhaps they should recall all TVs, PC Monitors, and Consoles aswell to make sure that the screens light up slowly... food for thought, i wonder how much that would cost them. no i doubt they would open that can of worms. Until someone sues over it.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:33 PM
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Cannot 1C re-release it themselves to the Western market? after all they are a publisher right? in a new fully patched up boxed version and do whatever they need to do graphically? we wanted the realistic flight experience, that is ruined with this propellor crap that Ubisoft want.

""Where it is not reasonably practicable to follow the Ofcom guidance, and where broadcasters can demonstrate that the broadcasting of flashing lights and/or patterns is editorially justified, viewers should be given an adequate verbal and also, if appropriate, text warning at the start of the programme or programme item."

Quite simply, IL2 is a realistic flight simulator and therefore as it is representing realistic flying of aircraft which will involved flickerring images as experienced by real WW2 pilots, this game is not suitable for viewing by people with epilepsy.

End of story, that warning would be legal!! there was no need to mess up the sim.

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