Friday 2011-02-04 Dev. update and Discussion

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

Really thats funny.

kids these days

[Sven]

Actually people manning guns and vehicles could've been very fun with that 16 years and older mark on the box art, but my fantasy wanders off again, too bad I don't see 'em in the screenshots, I do hope we see something like in IL2 with men running out of their trucks and jumping away.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

Really thats funny.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

kids these days

He's being sarcastic, thats all.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by luthier

...The plan is to allow 3rd party developers to approve, implement and release their own work once we release the SDK. We do not plan to implement anyone's work before or after the SDK is released.

Thanks for all your answers.

Yet this one raises another two questions.

1. How will 3rd party developers know if the plane they want to bring to the game is already worked on either by 1C or another 3rd party developer?
2. You have said before that the 3rd party tools for the implementation of planes will be limited and simplified so will that always result in 3rd party developed planes that are less complex than the official 1C developed ones?

[Richie]

What does porked mean and flys like a tie fighter?

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by Richie

What does porked mean and flys like a tie fighter?

That it is without beef.....

[swiss]

not kosher...

[JVM]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Thanks for all your answers.

Yet this one raises another two questions.

1. How will 3rd party developers know if the plane they want to bring to the game is already worked on either by 1C or another 3rd party developer?
2. You have said before that the 3rd party tools for the implementation of planes will be limited and simplified so will that always result in 3rd party developed planes that are less complex than the official 1C developed ones?

I would like to know more on these subjects myself as this position is somewhat contradictory with what I hd understood (from OM inputs) so far:

- OM would like to create a business around COD similar to what exists around FSx...
This means that the SDK and FM tools would need to be complete, otherwise what's the point?

- To be allowed online (that I translate by integrated in the official game/patch whatever) any third party work (at least the A/C) would need to be vetted by OM's team.
This would probably mean only this, vetting, no completion/modification error correction: I understand OM's team will not reproduce the Il2 problems there...

In any case this a policy matter, and some time (an the SDK) will probably pass before some final decisions are made in this domain, and this can always change later on...I would stay optimistic!

JV

PS Zorin you never told me if you were interested by the (french) magazine dedicated to the Nord Pacific?

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by jameson

Red Bands JG53, my bad...

Yes, apologies to Luthier, just posted off the top of my head from memory. I've done a little bit of digging about said redband and the actual reasons why JG53 ditched the pik as logo but it seems to be open to various schools of thought. Still it does appear that the entire geschwader changed over to the redband, as Frankboy says, around the beginning of August. What's a bit more difficult to find out is when it disappeared. As early as September by some accounts when the unit commander was replaced and the pik as was reinstated. To add to the confusion the yellow nose had become an official Luftwaffe BOB colour scheme by September (I understand), and was taken up by JG 53, and which may have occured when the unit moved to the Pas de Calais to perform close fighter escort for bombing attacks on London. (Could the yellow nose have been to protect themselves from their own bomber's gunners?).
The first example of the red band to have been shot down over England was on August 16th 1940, so it seems the red band was short lived. I did see a couple of shots of half of a red band over a yellow nose, one upper cowling, one lower. I would guess it died a natural death and disappeared fairly rapidly after the beginning of September. For III/JG53, I have read that there were 109's still flying without swastikas on Nov 20th 1940. Swastikas were added apparently to the actual rudder and not the tail plane on some 109's of JG53 when it was reinstated, just to add to the confusion!
Still hand up to say my initial posting was wide of the mark...

its very simple, as i already said, the JG53 was officialy, by oerder (!), allowed to use the PikAs (instead of the Red Band) again from 20.Nov 1940 on. I could scan a picture out of Priens JG53 book about that, but im too lazy
and yes, still after that date it was common in the III.Group to overpaint the Swastika. When this behaviour ended, i dont know.....

the yellow color was introduced for a faster IFF in the hassle of aircombat. That this had tow sides is obvious...... not only the germas were able to tell their freinds very fast, also the british thier foes
anyway, there were so many kinds of yellow markings during BoB......some pilots/units didnt have them at all
actually, that makes skinning german fighters more interesting than RAF ones IMHO - more variants

the red band of JG53 and the yellow IFF markings where totaly independ things..............

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Zorin

....About the Bf-108

About the BF-108.
Maybe we can somehow convince Mathias from Classic Hangar to make an addon to turn the 108 into a flyable plane.
He's working on it for FSX right now:

http://www.classics-hangar.de/phpBB3...&sd=a&start=40

And it looks bloody gorgeous.