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Old 01-12-2011, 02:05 PM
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But this is a realistic advantage of using a trim.
My opinion is different. IMO the only purpose of trims is reduction of muscle force needed to control aircraft.I'm not a pilot, but in RL trimming take some time, especially from dead end to opposite dead end. So it seems impossible to use trims during dogfight. In the game it's possible to switch trim for a split second.

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Old 01-12-2011, 02:28 PM
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My opinion is different. IMO the only purpose of trims is reduction of muscle force needed to control aircraft.I'm not a pilot, but in RL trimming take some time, especially from dead end to opposite dead end. So it seems impossible to use trims during dogfight. In the game it's possible to switch trim for a split second.
There has been a delay on trims in the game since early 4.0x, IIRC. Try it on the ground, you can see it takes a couple of seconds to go from stop to stop even if it's set on a slider, which is perfectly reasonable. Anyway, mainly what I was replying to was this part.

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Examle: if the pilot is tired, he wouldn't be able to get full stick/pedals deflection, well, it's not necessary, there is a trimm(cheat)
It's not a cheat to be able to get a greater degree of control deflection than you are physically able to pull from your current trim point by using a trim. Trim essentially moves the zero stick-force point around within the bounds of control deflection.

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Old 01-12-2011, 03:15 PM
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There has been a delay on trims in the game since early 4.0x ...
Yes, I'm wrong...
About energy bleeding.... IMO trims can't reduce it.

I have read some veteran interviews, they don't mention about trims use during combat.
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:00 PM
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It's not a cheat to be able to get a greater degree of control deflection than you are physically able to pull from your current trim point by using a trim. Trim essentially moves the zero stick-force point around within the bounds of control deflection.
I could be wrong but I lived under the impression that in this game the trim function is actually added on top of the max deflection.

If the trim "cheat" works at low speed too I'm correct, if not, I'm wrong.


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I have read some veteran interviews, they don't mention about trims use during combat.
Maybe because they were lacking the needed, additional hand?




Stamina:

I really like the thought of an ingame ace with the stamina of an Olympic Athlete - while in real life there's just a fat moron sitting in front of the pc with a bowl of chips next to him.

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Old 01-12-2011, 04:26 PM
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I could be wrong but I lived under the impression that in this game the trim function is actually added on top of the max deflection.

If the trim "cheat" works at low speed too I'm correct, if not, I'm wrong.




Maybe because they were lacking the needed, additional hand?




Stamina:

I really like the thought of an ingame ace with the stamina of an Olympic Athlete - while in real life there's just a fat moron sitting in front of the pc with a bowl of chips next to him.
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