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Old 11-29-2010, 10:38 PM
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:04 AM
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A flight sim cannot depict the layer above the regimental plane (= Geschwader or Wing).
Unless the Geschwaderstab was in the regular habit of flying combat missions, I don't see simulating LW operations above the Gruppe level as being feasible. Otherwise, I like your ideas.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:13 AM
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"Today is a hard day... I'm too tired, computer doesn't run well, wheather is bad, etc..."

Take a look at the Date and 'Time' on the Hurricane Screen Shot.

11-26-2010 04:39 AM!

You must live at the place man!

Thank you, to you and your Crew Sir.

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Old 11-30-2010, 08:07 AM
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"Today is a hard day... I'm too tired, computer doesn't run well, wheather is bad, etc..."

Take a look at the Date and 'Time' on the Hurricane Screen Shot.

11-26-2010 04:39 AM!

You must live at the place man!

Thank you, to you and your Crew Sir.
Now that's what you call dedication :0
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:33 AM
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Unless the Geschwaderstab was in the regular habit of flying combat missions, I don't see simulating LW operations above the Gruppe level as being feasible.
Actually they were. It was expected of them to lead the Geschwader in the air. This was one of the reasons why Göring replaced most JG Kommodores in the middle of August 1940 - the younger replacements (i.e. Mölders, Galland, Schellmann, Trautloft etc) were expected to lead by example.
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:15 PM
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Actually they were. It was expected of them to lead the Geschwader in the air. This was one of the reasons why Göring replaced most JG Kommodores in the middle of August 1940 - the younger replacements (i.e. Mölders, Galland, Schellmann, Trautloft etc) were expected to lead by example.


The older where replaced cos the new weapon needed new tactics which were just developed during the Spainish civil war by Lützow and later Mölders. The old fighters from the Great war couldnt get them (tactics) operational, whiles sitting behind a desk. No one expected, that they really fight any more - although Theo Osterkamp did so very well during the battle.

In pedagogy it is well know that children learn by imitation and mimicry.
Parends are in fact paragons of their children.
Prussia adapted this truth for their military: FÜHREN DURCH VORBILD.
Its in fact a maxime for better Wehrmacht Füherer as well. "leading from the front". Strictly conected to things like honor and a truthfull character building.
Ok, I describe what leads to this, I dont mean, that this virtues are in place; its up to the iduvidual of course. Dont miss understand.
Another point maybe is/was, like today, when ever political leaders cry for the youth, they are so much easier to inveigled and deceived.

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Old 11-30-2010, 08:06 PM
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I found that LucasFilms' Their Finest Hour (and SWOTL) had a tremendous amount of re-play value because of the strategic side of the game. Trying out different strategies was an exciting part of the game. It had a major weakness in that it simplistically extrapolated from your mission success to all other missions flown and so it was comparatively easy to cripple the enemy if you did well in the mission you flew.

That said, I don't think that Oleg is going to include a strategic component to SOW:BOB. He's never mentioned anything of the sort and, on the contrary, has re-iterated on several occasions that "one pilot could not win the war". I do hope (and expect from what he's said), however, that damage to a Chain Home station will affe3ct the RAF response capability and that that damage will likely carry over from one mission to the next in a campaign.

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Old 11-30-2010, 08:44 PM
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I found a video including a short interview with Luthier about SoW BoB.
Maybe someone who understands russian language can translate it.

2:37-4:55




And one more (I think parts of it have already been shown?)


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Old 11-30-2010, 10:04 PM
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If the clip starting at 09:20 is from BoB then I think the cloud worriers can stop worrying...
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:06 PM
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It started off with old material and WoP footage. I don't recall seeing the footage at interval 7:00 to 7:19.

No idea where the footage from 9:19-9:39,10:22-10:29/:40-:45 came from. It looks like it's rendered, because of the camera angles and the motion from the aircraft.
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