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Old 10-12-2010, 06:48 AM
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Try FreeTrack (google for it as i don't know if link are allowed), it's not expensive if you already have a webcam, and you'll never go back....
But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:39 AM
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Default Tir 5

Bought Tir5 about one year ago. Simply like it, runs great on my 7 year old PC.
For years I was using CH Pro Throttles minimouse for viewing. It was good too, but it got weary after years

Pros
- Increases SA alot
- Easy install
- Brings alot of immersion, got me back to Il2
- My neck does not hurt anymore, if I play longs sessions
- Actually helps me in Rolling Scissors and in Scissors.


Cons
- Well, it is expensive
- You need to study settings to get headtracking to work to your personal likings. All those curves, after that it is easy configure.


Oh, I recommend to get trackclip too. You wont loose focus with that one.

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Old 10-12-2010, 09:38 AM
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But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.
yes.. you're right.. you need to build it yourself... but with an old hat,3 leds and a USB printer cable i made mine, and it works very well. If somebody is interested in a config for the il2 i can send mine, i found it somewere and adjusted for better response...

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I don't think another company will make a TrackIR alternative, naturalpoint think it's their tecnology and patents... (but nintendo wii remote works like trackir, a small camera that read 2 infrared leds)

Alberto

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:00 AM
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"naturalpoint think it's their tecnology and patents..."

No "think" about it - Naturalpoint have been into head-tracking technology from the beginning of PC usage, enabling disabled people to use computers. They did develop the technology and they did patent it. The move into games and sims was a no-brainer and they have continued to develop and support their products right into the present day.

As for this constant cry of "too expensive" there's several choices. Build your own device, buy TrackIR, or use buttons & mouse. I chose to buy Naturalpoint's devices and I don't regret the decision. I just bought TiR 5 and sent my 3Pro to a squad-mate. 5 is a great improvement, and I don't regret saving up for it! It only took me about three months to salt away the money.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:22 AM
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But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.
It's not the hardware you pay - it's R&D.


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yes.. you're right.. you need to build it yourself... but with an old hat,3 leds and a USB printer cable i made mine,
So your hat is USB powered too?
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:24 AM
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Good point, brando. There's so much misuse of patents out there that one tends to forget, that there *are* companies who not only earned their patents, but actually use them for something different than lawsuits...

And for those with more time than money there's FreeTrack + webcam/wii + headgear. Total costs approximatly €50 and a lot of fun buliding the headgear (at least for me).

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:44 AM
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So your hat is USB powered too?
yes why? i just plug it in a front usb in my pc....
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:53 AM
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yes why? i just plug it in a front usb in my pc....
What about a solar powered hat ??? ... no wait you might want to play at night ...
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:59 AM
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What about a solar powered hat ??? ... no wait you might want to play at night ...
ah.....................ah.....................ah.. ...................ah

(ironic laught... )
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:15 PM
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yes why? i just plug it in a front usb in my pc....
I don't think many went with this solution.

I also made an experience of pure horror due to this.

Since I built two FT sets(1 hat/ one for headphones), and had(or wanted to sacrifice) only one USB cable, I installed a circular connector(m) to the other end of the USB cable - and the same (f) to each headset.
The resistor was installed right above the strap to adjust the size of the cap.


Now:

Did you know that the Lacie external HDD PSU uses the same size of connector?

I was playing IL2 when I suddenly smelled something burn.
I turned my head to the window where I was reflected.
There were SPARKS flying from the back of my HEAD!
In terror I removed my cap and threw it on the desk - solder flying around as it hit the table top.
The smell of burned hair was suddenly evident too.



btw: an overheated resistors loses all of the resistance...
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