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Old 10-01-2010, 12:13 PM
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In my opinion, 4.10 patch will include too many new changes and improvements at the same time (new planes, new navigation systems, new controls, new weapons, MDS...etc)

Maybe a release on 2 parts (4.10.a & 4.10b) will be more easy for developers and also for people to learn those new features slowly....
Just release it... and frankly if some of the issues like the ammo belting on the American planes and the known length issue on the Mustang are fixed I might just remain mod free... Although as I have always said in many ways I prefer some of the more functional mods anyway like the ability to set your own default skins and remove the map border etc..
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Old 10-01-2010, 02:33 PM
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I have to say that as I beleive that this patch will not support the 6DOF that has been implemented with some of the other ....um...updates available then I think it will be missing out on one of the best things available for bringing the sim to life. In fact for me the 6DOF works better in IL2 than ROF or FSX.

Personally, and this is only personally and in no way detracting from the clever work carried out by the patch 4.10 developers, I am not remotely interested in radar led night fighter operations, as an example.

I guess what I am trying to say, is that with SOW just around the corner and many other add-on sources available out there, how important is this patch anyway? It seems to be all a bit too late.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:11 PM
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6DOF will not be implemented because it needs to change every cockpit in il2 to get i good looking, a bit too much work.
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:28 PM
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I think that the work done by DT or TD is and will be excellent. I kind of consider it as research and develpoment for the future of SOW. It is better to have it working in practice rather than just theory. I am not arguing that I want to be the virtual test dummy. I just have to look back and see how many squadrons kept flying CFS2 until Pacific Fighters came out. Many more will continue to fly Il2 until their interest are met in the future additions of SOW. So if my squadron is only interested in the Pacific for example. How long will it be before the Storm of War series adresses that period of the war again? It may be another long wait. I hope that many of the issues that Bearcat has adressed will be fixed in 4.10 or a future patch. The P-51 mustang needs its share of attention from those who have the tools to improve her. I am aware that the word "mod" is a bad thing here. I just think with everything even Mr Oleg can see the wisdom of looking at his creation from a different perspective. Why would he let TD take control of his masterpiece and make improvements if he was not a calculating man.
Hoping for a 2010 release, Go team maddox go!
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:42 PM
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I'm almost beginning to think that the release is being held back because of the imminent release of Storm Of War.

I know it sounds crazy on the face of it, but why bite the hand that feeds you? In a manner of speaking.
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:02 PM
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I'm almost beginning to think that the release is being held back because of the imminent release of Storm Of War.
It's not crazy it just makes zero sense.
IL is at the end of it's life span, there's no more money to be made with.

And as a competing product to SoW - uh, no.
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:37 PM
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I'm not deleting il2 as soon as BOB SOW is out.
Il2 has lots more planes and lots more maps.
O.k. the graphics are becoming very oldfahioned but the gameplay is still a lot of fun.
SOW will only have the battle of Britain(correct?) so when you are bored with this scenario there is not alot more to do in there till the DLC's come out giving more planes and maps.
And waiting for those can take a very long time.
So the modding peoples still do good work trying to keep the old,aging, classic
oldtimer IL2 alive and running.
If only Oleg wasn't so anti modding in the beginning of IL2 we would have had a much improved Il2 years ago. (I know about the online cheating probs. but still )
Look at Oblivion and Fallout3 those games are still great fun years after they ended up in the bargain bin because of the many modders who greatly improved the games.
Kudos for the modders and kudos for the PC. Try modding a PS3 or xbox game nopes not possible so PC rules and will outlive all those crappy consoles
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:16 PM
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I'm almost beginning to think that the release is being held back because of the imminent release of Storm Of War.

I know it sounds crazy on the face of it, but why bite the hand that feeds you? In a manner of speaking.
Sounds a bit conspiracy theoryish

It's just a lot of content. Perhaps a little too much bitten off at once.
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Old 10-01-2010, 06:32 PM
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IL-2 and 4.1x patches are in no way a competitor to SoW as they are not even in same ballpark so a theory of Sow vs 4.10 sounds a bit laughable. Last time TD was localizing the patch and said there was a lot of translation to do etc. and bugs to iron out so it takes time. IL-2 gets more content, bug fixes etc. made for FREE by TD and I appreciate that and can not CLAIM for a set release date. Those who want more planes or whatever just get the player made content incorporated to the game, simple.

So waiting for both 4.10 and SoW..both have their place on my HDD
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:02 PM
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I have to say that as I beleive that this patch will not support the 6DOF that has been implemented with some of the other ....um...updates available then I think it will be missing out on one of the best things available for bringing the sim to life. In fact for me the 6DOF works better in IL2 than ROF or FSX.

Personally, and this is only personally and in no way detracting from the clever work carried out by the patch 4.10 developers, I am not remotely interested in radar led night fighter operations, as an example.

I guess what I am trying to say, is that with SOW just around the corner and many other add-on sources available out there, how important is this patch anyway? It seems to be all a bit too late.
And that is one of the resons mods will live forever + the POOR default sounds!


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6DOF will not be implemented because it needs to change every cockpit in il2 to get i good looking, a bit too much work.
I know they are saying so, but I belive it have been working fine for several years now and there are no reson not add the 6DOF to the sim. (correct me, if Im wrong) I belive its become an obsession not to add it, simply becarse they want all to be perfect looking. But I think it still does with 6DOF on. If all should look perfekt, there was a lot of work to do. Redo all vehicle, roads, rivers, building ect.......
Dont get me wrong. Im not complaining in any way. Im happe with all of it, as it is. Im just saying, that the 6DOF should not be a problem.
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