Officer's Patent

[BB Shockwave]

Did anyone find out whether Witch Hunters or Assassins can be trained from some neutral unit - like Robbers, Marauders?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

Did anyone find out whether Witch Hunters or Assassins can be trained from some neutral unit - like Robbers, Marauders?

Seems like witch hunters can be made from footmen, per first post in the thread (after editing).

Is there a particular reason why it has to be from a neutral race?

I haven't seen anything about assassins.

[BB Shockwave]

They are called Swordsmen, I think. But thanks anyway. It's odd that a Neutral troop is trained from a Human...

Frankly, I found the system very helpfull. Even with trophy costs, it is much more profitable to recruit certain units this way, especially if you have no access to them otherwise.

[camelotcrusade]

Now I'm thinking they should add the descriptor "upgradeable" to any unit that can be upgraded via the trophy system. For bonus points, put how they upgrade in the hover text (though I realize that would be unique to each unit). But at least having a note that a unit is upgradeable would pique my curioisty and get me to play around with it.

It could say:

Upgradeable
This unit can be upgraded to a higher level unit at traininy academy if you meet the requirements.

If this would be on too many units and/or be annoying, maybe they could make a toggle to turn it on and off. Or maybe make a symbol like an upwards arrow inside a circle that is small but on the unit screen to indicate it can be upgraded.

[BB Shockwave]

I stopped using the whole patent, now that I have access to all troops that I need, I kinda find it useless. The Shark's Tooth that the first hireling gave me gives +5% XP and Gold, as opposed to +3%, so I switched it.

Why? Well, it cost about 700-800 Gold AND Trophies to upgrade 10 Guardsmen to 2 Paladins. And I had to fight a LOT of battles to accumulate this many.

So, I think, apart from the early game where you don't have access to some units, or in cases where certain units are simply not available anywhere, this system is usefull, but overall, I'd have been happier with a system more like the Necromancer in the Dwarven lands is offering.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

I stopped using the whole patent, now that I have access to all troops that I need, I kinda find it useless. The Shark's Tooth that the first hireling gave me gives +5% XP and Gold, as opposed to +3%, so I switched it.

Why? Well, it cost about 700-800 Gold AND Trophies to upgrade 10 Guardsmen to 2 Paladins. And I had to fight a LOT of battles to accumulate this many.

So, I think, apart from the early game where you don't have access to some units, or in cases where certain units are simply not available anywhere, this system is usefull, but overall, I'd have been happier with a system more like the Necromancer in the Dwarven lands is offering.

The idea is to use it for key, unique, hard to find units, not a "cheap" way to buy out highly available units. e.g. my game only spawned 28 Orc Veterans. I had to convert Orcs into Veterans.

Some games don't have a lot of demonologists, etc.

I believe the cost is related to the leadership ratio. So Orcs->Veterans isn't too bad at around 1.75 to 1. Cost me maybe 1000 trophies to convert 53 orcs to 30 orc veterans?

I usually get like 150 trophies per battle? I wonder what the rate of gaining trophies is.

I have about 15K trophies, after spending enough to upgrade to level 4 and get orcs. I'm about level 37 too and have used the trophy item since the beginning of the game sans 3 battles.

One guy hinted that if you fight with no-loss you get more trophies than without.

That said, yes, if you absolutely don't need new units, the patent is a pretty bad item to equip given the alternatives. If you do, it isn't THAT horrible at 3%/3%.a

[jake21]

Well in my mage impossible games demonologist did not spawn; but the conversion cost is 9000 trophies for 40 I need 70 for my mage's leadership, going to be a while ....

[BB Shockwave]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

One guy hinted that if you fight with no-loss you get more trophies than without.

That's interesting- I have had like 70 battles so far, all no loss.

Well, now that I have access to all the units I need (found lots of Royal Griffins, Paladins and Archmages in Verona) I stopped using it.