Look what I saw flying today!

[Hunden]

Liberals are like sheep with really bad attitudes. Even while they are being led to slaughter by those they see as friends. They will blame the ones that are trying to warn them. Wars will always be a fact, they will not go away just because you know they are wrong. There will always be someone in power somewhere who wants more. Because there will always be sheep to say lets just try to understand them, we should not offend them. What is that saying? Men are from Mars , Woman are from Venus and liberals are from Uranus.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Hunden

Liberals are like sheep with really bad attitudes. Even while they are being led to slaughter by those they see as friends. They will blame the ones that are trying to warn them. Wars will always be a fact, they will not go away just because you know they are wrong. There will always be someone in power somewhere who wants more. Because there will always be sheep to say lets just try to understand them, we should not offend them.

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

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Men are from Mars , Woman are from Venus and liberals are from Uranus.

And denying the humanity of your opponents is typical far-right tactics. Stick your war-mongering garbage where the sun doesn't shine, Hunden.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

The problem is its hard to tell the difference between the good guy and the bad guy sometimes. So what are you suppose to do? I say arm yourself just in case.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

War, in the sense that the term is currently used (fighting against people you've never even met), is a relatively recent phenomenon. For most of our existence, we've managed well enough without, and even now there are may people, perhaps the majority, who have never experienced war, and never will. The claim that it is inevitable (or even a good thing) has historically been made by many on the right, to justify their own greed for power. This is a lie.

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And denying the humanity of your opponents is typical far-right tactics. Stick your war-mongering garbage where the sun doesn't shine, Hunden.

LMAO You will always be a sheep and thats ok you just don't relize the Dogs of War are needed agaisnt the wolfs that will feed on you and your lilly white ass.

[AndyJWest]

Hunden, if and when I'm threatened by wolves, I'd expect you to be somewhere in the pack. I'm no sheep (or liberal for that matter). I'm quite capable of defending myself from Fascists (and illiterates). And kindly keep your homoerotic fantasies for a more appropriate forum.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Hunden, if and when I'm threatened by wolves, I'd expect you to be somewhere in the pack. I'm no sheep (or liberal for that matter). I'm quite capable of defending myself from Fascists (and illiterates). And kindly keep your homoerotic fantasies for a more appropriate forum.

I'm pretty sure the wolfs came knocking 70 years ago and my Grand Father came to your Grand Daddys aid just like I would even tho you would spit in my face afterwards. Its just who you are.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Hunden

I'm pretty sure the wolfs came knocking 70 years ago and my Grand Father came to your Grand Daddys aid just like I would even tho you would spit in my face afterwards. Its just who you are.

This is the sort of moronic response I'd expect from you, Hunden. Seeing as this is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, can you please enlighten us as to what your Grand Father was doing at the time?

I see from your personal details that you claim to be a US Marine. Perhaps you should ask a few marines who served in WW II what they think of your warmongering rhetoric. I doubt you'd find many who would have much sympathy with it.

[Hunden]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

This is the sort of moronic response I'd expect from you, Hunden. Seeing as this is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, can you please enlighten us as to what your Grand Father was doing at the time?

I see from your personal details that you claim to be a US Marine. Perhaps you should ask a few marines who served in WW II what they think of your warmongering rhetoric. I doubt you'd find many who would have much sympathy with it.

I never once said that I like War . All I have ever said is that you need to be prepared to defend youself. I notice that you hover in here, you log off but you still stay on the forum, then you log back on to respond. NO MARINE likes war, are you really that stupid, to think that anyone likes to go to WAR. Would you suggest that we have no standing army? Or would you rather we have a standing army with limited weapons so as to feel better about yourself? I'm done responding to you scumbag. You don't rate knowing anything about my family. or what we lost.

[AndyJWest]

I never once said that I like War . All I have ever said is that you need to be prepared to defend youself.

No you didn't. You suggested that those who disagreed with you were either 'sheep' or 'from Uranus'. I am prepared to defend myself. Sadly, it's people like you who are the threat.

I know nothing about what your family lost. You know nothing about my family. Neither of us have any right to wrap ourselves in flags dragged from the coffins of dead soldiers to push our personal political agendas. I don't. You do.

[WTE_Galway]

...

Hermann Goering, interviewed by Gustave Gilbert during
the Easter recess of the Nuremberg trials, 1946 April 18:


Goering: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some
poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or
a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.

Goering: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country."