Friday 2010-07-30 Dev. update and Discussions

[swiss]

Concerning convergence settings in SOW:

I would love to have an advanced settings option where you can adjust each gun individually, with independent lateral(sp?) and elevation settings.

2 pages from a FW190 manual to make it a bit clearer.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well dont get upset with me I never suggested a BOB anniversary release date in 2010!! You have to keep saying it because there are a few on here who believe its going gold now whilst Oleg is on holiday..... honestly!!

Oh, Come on Tree. You don't really think that anyone suggesting that were doing anything more than fantasizing? Do you?

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by dflion

Thanks Sutts and Avimimus for clearing up my query, though I don't think the prop is right. I have attached some photo scans. One of the photos titled 'Scramble' on a French airfield clearly shows 2 prop types, on the others the prop is much more pointed.

Just to make things really difficult, The Hurricane has 4 distinct propeller/spinners throughout its history.

- The first production Mk.I batches (early L-serials) has a Watts two-bladed, fixed propeller with a small and quite elegant pointed spinner. This is what the No 85 Squ Hurricane in the picture you posted has.

- LaterMk.I L-serials had a 3-bladed de Havilland constant-speed propeller. This required a somewhat bulkier spinner, though de Havilland tried to keep the lines by making it pointed. It is the type of spinner you will find on the Mk.I in IL2, which is correct for the pre-war export version we have in-game. Here's a Hurri with a de Haviland spinner:



- De Haviland could not deliver enough propellers, so most late Mk.I Hurricanes got Rotol propellers. These were really made for the Spitfire, and did not quite fit the somewhat slimmer Hurricane nose. This made the propeller squirt oil, so Hawker introduced an oil-collector ring behind the spinner. This was kept in later models, despite having spinners that fitted. In this picture, the closest plane has a Rotol propeller, the other de Havilands:



- The Mk.II Hurricanes had a slightly longer Merlin XX engine and an all new propeller. The spinner was noticeably longer than the earlier spinners, and semi-pointed. This is the spinner that the Mk.IIb and IIc Hurricanes in IL2 has:



All these variations could conceivably be found during the Battle of Britain (the Mk.II was introduced in autumn 1940), sometimes even in the same unit!

The Hurricane spinners shown in the development shots posted by Oleg and Luthier are all Rotol spinners, which would have been the most common spinner during the late summer/early autumn of 1940. I'd like to see a few de Haviland spinners too (simply as I find them more elegant), but the blunt Rotol spinners modelled in the screen-shots looks spot on to me.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by luthier

We have all those variants. There's a huge jump ahead compared to Il-2 markings. I want to keep it the details a secret for now, until we're ready to show that in a screenshot as well.

This I am really, really looking forward to!

[philip.ed]

Great answers Luthier, thanks.


See, Friendly-Flyer was able to present valuable info for SoW which may not have been noticed when it came to final release....
Clearly evidence that these discussions are valuable to the team

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Robert

Oh, Come on Tree. You don't really think that anyone suggesting that were doing anything more than fantasizing? Do you?

Why do you think he keeps quoting those statements? He's the one hoping it will go gold right now and is disappointed tomorrow when it hasn't.

Tree's a master in creating and destroying his own bubbles and even more in making a real fuss about it.

[Tbag]

Thank you very much for the update and the answers Ilya. Would it be possible for you to comment a bit on the gameplay, especially concerning the campaign. Example questions: How is the briefing done? As you move from the training aircraft to the operational units, will there be aircraft familiarization and tactical briefs? Will there be newspaper articles? Do victories need to be claimed and confirmed in a campaign?

Cheers

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by luthier

No there won't be a hidden swastika, and Russian legal climate being what it is, we can even potentially get in trouble if one is made as a pure user mod with no help from us.

I mean, lots of other Russian teams, video games, movies, books, etc, continue to splash swastikas all over their work and they don't get in trouble, but who knows what the climate will be in a year or two or five. We'd rather stay 100% legal, and that means no swastikas, no SS runes, no portraits of Hitler, and so on. We have a wide variety of historical posters for example appear randomly on our buildings (British in England, French and German in France) and we scrubbed out anything remotely Nazi from the German ones. So trust me, there won't be a hidden swastika feature.

I find this new's, VERY disappointing, but I realize the position the law places you in. It certainly will affect the immersion level for some players, this one included.

[BG-09]

Luthier, it seems to me that the human model is smaller than it should be... The pilot looks like child. I think that we need bigger pilot figure. Luthier, please do some measurements and tell us is this a kid, hijacking militarily aircraft, or a fully grown man. The pilot just seems SMALL compared to the aircraft. I am very painfully sensitive about the pilot figure!!! BECAUSE THE PILOT IN TO THE COCKPIT IT IS ME!!!

NOW SERIOUSLY:
Luthier, and team, please look at all pictures of Hurricanes below, and see that even the pilots has bent their heads forwards, the top of the head of the pilot is still at level equal to the cockpit's roof! Now look at the picture from the current 30/07/2010 weekly update and see, that there is a plenty of room above the head of the pilot of the Hurricane. It is obvious then, that the pilot's figure is smaller than it should be! It hurts me a lot, straight in to the heart!

Please do something...


~S!

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Why do you think he keeps quoting those statements? He's the one hoping it will go gold right now and is disappointed tomorrow when it hasn't.

Tree's a master in creating and destroying his own bubbles and even more in making a real fuss about it.

I am really hoping its going gold, but deep down I know its not - but thats a good thing if we see a superb product rather than an unfinished one. It will be interesting to see what the next speculated release date from Oleg is though!