Friday 2010-07-23 Dev. update and Discussions

[robday]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

maybe it's because we been waiting this since 2005, and 5 years later see some things too similar to il2 engine, makes you wonder why.

The updates we have seen so far look many times better than IL2 IMHO! I've been playing IL2 since it was first released and I believe SoW will be a quantum leap forward in aerial combat sims when it is eventually on our machines.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by hellbomber

on the note of tracers, if you've ever fired a heavy machine gun loaded with tracers (i have), they do indeed look like streaks to the human eye

I should had wrote small streaks then, instead of points. From behind that streaks from a tracer look shorter that from the side, motter of angle point of view. Bottom of the line, you are right.

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

The tracers in photo 3 and 5 do look abit cartoonish, especially the closer they are to the shooter.

Tracers, because of their speed, look like streaks when they are close and bright dots when they are further away.
It is hard to say what these tracers look like "in game" but I do think that they will look a lot better in motion.
I like how Oleg has the tracers slowly "fading" as they get further away to give the illusion of distance BUT tracers stay brightly lit during the entire time they burn.
Who is to say anything about it now as this is all work in progress anyway.
I can't wait to see a movie of what they look like and
I can't wait to see what the ricochets look like

[Abbeville-Boy]

thanks very much for good looking shots
enjoy the vacation
and luither enjoy the usa visit

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by louisv

If what you have been seeing in the updates in the last few weeks looks to you like IL-2, then there is no hope for you

The smoke looks like Il-2, the sky looks like Il-2, the clouds (when not lit to show the individual particles) look like Il-2 so I can see what he's saying. Of course, I can see all these features being haveily tweaked, but it's not really 2010 standard. I have full faith in the team, but we need to see this in video form to get a real grasp of it.
But really I can see so many things that are similar to Il-2; smoke and fire that just don't look right (I have seen lots of WW2 guncam footage, a fair amount in colour, and the smoke doesn't look like this, and the fire in the hurricane pic just looks odd) so really I can see that certain features are like they have been regurgetated from Il-2. Take the tracer, the tracer from the .303's that I've seen in guncam videos has had smoke-trails behind the burning tracer. This looks a bit like Il-2's lasers...

But really people take these comments too seriously; they are just small aspects of the game, and it'd be pages of essays to concentrate on each individual amazing aspect.

[Avimimus]

Err... The closest thing we have to 2010 standard for flightsims is Lock-on Flaming Cliffs 2 and Rise of Flight - not a very large sample.

Just have faith. It will appear over-saturated - because that is what Oleg does. It will come out with a few details looking a bit like Il-2 - because the project is being rushed a little. It will be astounding - because that is what Oleg does. Finally, it will be developed further (by Oleg or 3rd parties).

So, yes, I take your comments far too seriously (especially as the tracers last week were dots and now they've become lines). Very silly of my really.

[SlipBall]

IL-2 was done very well, to the point that we all still fly it. I really don't expect SOW to look that much different from what was very much, near perfection. It certainly will look better in the end, just stop the critique of every up-date, and say thank you for a change of pace.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by louisv

Flak exploding I think (watch from close -up we can see some far-away flak smudges)

I rather guess these are placeholders for the smokepuffs from bullets penetrating the aircraft skin, just like the ones present in IL2.

[Jaws2002]

I see some of you here are really acting like the "vilage idiot" with your rude coments. Is because of this kind of morons, Oleg stoped being directly involved with the IL-2 community. I think you guys need to have a good look in the mirror and stay away from this forum for a while. You are not helping one bit.

[Viikate]

Remember how the original IL-2 development shots looked like?

http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/jan99/IL-2.htm
http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/jan99/IL-2b.htm

Totally different than the actual release