Friday 2010-05-07 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by zauii

Seriosuly, do you ever want the game to be released?
Time to quit the nitpicking.. and you can spend 6 months making your own aircraft post-release instead of wimping about every little detail... it's after all a game also.

But why not have as near a perfect release as you can get? because otherwise, people will whine that it's not what they expected.

[Zorin]

Ok, if that is all fine with you, Oleg please give us a Me262 in BoB, cause people don't care for accuracy anyway....

Really, you lot should start reading what nonsense you are talking here.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Don`t know how it`s in your part of the wordl but if you say something like this is right or wrong, prove it with pics or sources.. that`s more usefull than just complaining about details without giving information or references you are refering to..

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Ok, if that is all fine with you, Oleg please give us a Me262 in BoB, cause people don't care for accuracy anyway....

Really, you lot should start reading what nonsense you are talking here.

Some people here actually want SoW:BoB to be released sometime, rather than going over endless debates about minor details that 99.9% of us don't know about anyway. a 100% accurate simulation is impossible. Live with it.

[nearmiss]

It has been said many times recently.

The BOB SOW for all practical purposes is done, except for testing, debugging and cleaning up code items. Along with some graphic refinements and other tweaks, etc.

What is going to be in the BOB as far as objects, maps, planes is long ago established.

At this point I doubt requests will do much good, except for some things that might be code related not content related.

Also, when it is finally released... you are not going to believe the onrush of people that will still not satisfied.

-------------------------------------->> "You can't always get what you want"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj_6_WWUypQ

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Ok, if that is all fine with you, Oleg please give us a Me262 in BoB, cause people don't care for accuracy anyway....

Really, you lot should start reading what nonsense you are talking here.

Well mate, even if you're not by all evidence the world champion of politeness and respect of other's opinions, nevertheless you should understand that life is a compromise, business even more. Perfection doesn't exist, and Il2 story demonstrates that some people are never happy, despite any effort, money and hours that Oleg will throw into the game. I'd rather prefer a 95% accurate game than no BoB at all for another year or two.

By the way, given your deep knowledge (seriously), I suggest that you create your own software house; I will be the first customer of your flight simulation, no kidding, I'll even buy two or three copies.

Peace & love to you, debate closed.

Insuber

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird

Don`t know how it`s in your part of the wordl but if you say something like this is right or wrong, prove it with pics or sources.. that`s more usefull than just complaining about details without giving information or references you are refering to..

- any official manual for the C and D series (http://www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de/)
- John Vasco's books on the Bf 110 ( the time and money he spent on the research of the Bf 110 series alone should suffice to anyones requirements )
- Revi publications book on the early Bf 110 series (based on official drawings afaik)

These sources are the closest you will get by todays standards to produce an actual and factual representation of the Bf 110 series.

@the complainers: Dare any of you come complaining about anything that is wrong in the sim in the future. We are presented with content by the developer right here and now, which makes it exactly the time and place to tell them what is wrong. Otherwise they wouldn't need to show the stuff anyway, cause I doubt they need yours "Oooohhhs" and "Aaaaahs" to keep at it. Ann encouraging tap on the shoulder is sure welcome, but we are all mature enough to know that that is not what counts at the end of the day.

[BigC208]

When guys like Zorin bring up valid points like:

"But why does the Bf110C-7 have the wrong pitot tube and the extended rudder trim tabs? It jumped at me right away. The same issues like in IL-2."

This is a good thing. Same as someone catching a spelling mistake on an instrument panel.

As long as it's done respectfull. How many software developers take the time to communicate with their customers as Oleg Does? Oleg is like God in our universe. He is the Creator and should be treated as such, with respect.
Don't treat him like he is purposely doing things wrong. Back your claims up with documents. I'm pretty sure he pays attention and corrects things if possible.

Refrain from making statements out of the blue like "blurry" 110 skin. All that does is irritate the gods. Next thing you know, no more updates and chances we have any input at all. When on a forum treat others as if you where face to face with an adult that deserves respect.

Now I get of my high chair.

Great update by the way. It's coming nicely together. What has always impressed me in Il2 is the balance of the game. Everything feels like it belongs in the game. If you gets that balance in SOW at the cost of maybe less than photorealistic clouds so be it.

All this universe is going to need at some point is more people and animals. What always blew my mind in Il2 was the guys jumping out of the trucks when strafing or the gun crews running away. Watching fuelers, armourers and other ground personel, on the ground, would realy rachet up the immersion. If it can't be done at first because of deadline restraints I understand. Just hoping that at some point in the games developement it becomes available. Anyone remember the Airfix groundcrew sets you could buy for dioramas? Maybe a mod or aftermarket idea.

Keep up the good work, maybe it's time to hire a chauffeur(hint) when you pull all these late nighters and fall asleep behaind the wheel. We need you to stay healthy and be around for at least another 40 years of flightsim developement.

[Xilon_x]

Perfection exists.
Bill Gates invented F16 FALCON micropose he and three men more 'rich world now.
Oleg Maddox would have the capacity 'to become a man more' rich of the world? I think the answer is yes.
Oleg Maddox began to play to make IL-2 Sturmovik is beginning IL-2 Sturmovik was just the original game with the famous Russian aircraft then things have changed and the simulator has' progressed over the years until today.
Today currently IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 is no longer 'just a game but a mix of arcade and tactical simulation sports game for those who do in fact often stunt or air racing.
Oleg Maddox has a place in the world of aviation simulation, but a turning point so strong that many prefer to fly over 'IL-2 Sturmovik that with Combat Flight Simulator 3, which are very different.
In my SOW with Oleg Maddox could reach perfection and to turn innovative to flight simulators.
Starting with BOB and then maybe add other patches like the Battle of the Atlantic or the Mediterranean or battle in Operation Barbarossa, etc.. c.

[123-Wulf-123]

What a bloody nit picking whiner, the game is a Work in Progress do you understand that term?

If the images were perfect, dickheads like you would still find something to criticise just to give yourself a sense of superiority.

All it does is prove you're a knob.