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Old 03-01-2010, 10:01 PM
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Is there a way to fix the bug where some planes explode, when on fire, as soon as u bail, Bf109 beeing the obvious one.


If not a bug, whats the thinking behind such a "feature".


Lost count of how many times my pilot burns to death staying inside the pit or get blown to bits the second he bails.
I'm failing to see where the bug is here. At a certain point when a plane is on fire it will explode... pilot in the plane or not. The pilot cannot bail out if there are extreme G forces involved as well thus any delay in getting out can be attributed to that.

Coincidence is not a bug Well... you can take that one up with the universe if you want.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:58 AM
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I'm failing to see where the bug is here. At a certain point when a plane is on fire it will explode... pilot in the plane or not. The pilot cannot bail out if there are extreme G forces involved as well thus any delay in getting out can be attributed to that.

Coincidence is not a bug Well... you can take that one up with the universe if you want.

Its not like im asking to be able to fly arround all day long on fire. If u flew the BF alot u would know what im talking about

If i didnt know better i would say that the explosion in the Bf was triggered by the fact that u press Ctrl+E and bail and i fail to see how thats a feature and not a bug.

Fact is, if Bf109`s caches on fire u are pretty much deat unless u bail within 2 sec flat, unlike many other ac`s, that, while they do explode, they do so mostly when they hit the ground.

Like i said, if it is a feature it would be intresting to know the thinking behind the fact that a few select ac`s, Bf109 in perticular, explodes just a few sec after caching fire (without exeption in my experiance) when most dont. I mean, fire is fire, right?

I mean, even the Ki84 can have fire in the wings that goes out on its own, enebeling the pilot to bail or even make it home again, thats just not the case with the Bf109 once on fire. If u are fast enough and lucky u will make it IF u press refly, again, fast enough, and thats just "gaming" the game in my book.

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:13 PM
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I think the bashing of modders should be quitted and talks of "locking up" IL-2. Sit on a branch high up in a tree and saw it off would describe that best I believe TD and modders talk a lot more "behind the curtain" than in the open as community turns to a zoo if words mod or similar are said out loud Look at MDF..made by ZUTI. Now coming to an official patch! That is co-operation and improvement of the game. It is damned great to see how much TD does for IL-2.

Regarding the 6DOF..if they are worried by the issues, which I believe are mainly the holes etc. in 3D, those can be solved. Look at AHS on the Bf109, works perfectly with 6DOF. Again modders that have fixed these issues could help TD..win-win again

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:43 PM
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Its not like im asking to be able to fly arround all day long on fire. If u flew the BF alot u would know what im talking about

If i didnt know better i would say that the explosion in the Bf was triggered by the fact that u press Ctrl+E and bail and i fail to see how thats a feature and not a bug.

Fact is, if Bf109`s caches on fire u are pretty much deat unless u bail within 2 sec flat, unlike many other ac`s, that, while they do explode, they do so mostly when they hit the ground.

Like i said, if it is a feature it would be intresting to know the thinking behind the fact that a few select ac`s, Bf109 in perticular, explodes just a few sec after caching fire (without exeption in my experiance) when most dont. I mean, fire is fire, right?

I mean, even the Ki84 can have fire in the wings that goes out on its own, enebeling the pilot to bail or even make it home again, thats just not the case with the Bf109 once on fire. If u are fast enough and lucky u will make it IF u press refly, again, fast enough, and thats just "gaming" the game in my book.
Have you flown the P-39 Airacobra much? Or the Spitfire, or the Hurricane? What I mean is, they all exhibit the behaviour you are talking about. That is, they catch fire and explode almost immediately, usually, especially in the Airacobra, at the point of bailing.
I have often wondered whether it's the act of jettisoning the canopy or opening the door, thus admitting a rush of air, that causes the fire to go out of control and detonate the fuel tank? I suppose it would depend on the location of the fuel tank that has ignited - which would account for why the Spit, with its tank in front of the pilot, is less prone to exploding as you bail (though the pilot is likely to become severely wounded or dead very quickly).

What I'm saying is that this modelling, right or wrong, is not confined to the Bf-109.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:58 PM
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Ok, didn`t know that. Am a 99% blue flier, but its "nice" to know its not an oddity confined just to one ac.

If its correct or not is another issue.


would still be intresting to know why it is like that, if there is any kind of logic thinking behind it or if its just "like the way it is"



Edit: All i know is that the Spit especially, will blow up if one hit the tank directly.

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:04 PM
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In the P39 I don't like it, I don't feel it's at all realistic, and it's much too often that it lights up when hit in the fuselage, even if it barely begins to smoke then it's time to get out. I suspect it's because the P39 is otherwise too good, if you could get out of it by bailing then it would be unreasonably superior to the other aircraft.
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