Discrepancies to point out - Page 2

Zhuangzi · #11 11-24-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiltrator

It's not about easy vs hard. It's about logical vs illogical. Using traps to stop the enemy is the logical thing to do. Killing is not.

The trap medal IS a very serious tactical asset, and nobody is disputing that, however the way to achieve it is not tactical at all, it's completely counter-intuitive and strategically ridiculous.

The easy way can be fixed/balanced easily by making you require to trap more units. For example not 250 like he mentioned, but 750 (or any other higher number). There, it's not easy any more, and it complements the actual logic behind using the trap spell.

Yep, I agree. The value of Trap for me (low intellect) is more in slowing the enemy. In fact I don't see the point of upgrading it past level 1, because it does pitiful damage for me. But I am using Trap 1 every time, and I'm not getting a medal for it.

DGDobrev · #12 11-24-2009, 01:34 PM

Guys, the medals have NO EFFECT on the final scoreline. So you can go without them. I, for one, never get the Battle Alchemy and the Trapper medals with a Warrior or a Paladin. You can easily see that on my screens in the high score thread. As a Mage, I always go for it, since it's a good tool, and the mage is seriously underpowered.

I know it's pretty cool to have all the medals mastered, but some classes are just not that fit for doing it. For example, the mage will have a pretty tough time mastering the Blind Rage medal, since she's low on rage throughout the game and cannot use the high-rage consuming dragon abilities.

DGDobrev · #13 11-24-2009, 03:33 PM

I agree that what you guys are proposing is logical, but do you really expect that they will make a patch with your proposal for all the versions (English, Russian, etc.) that have gone out by now?

supersonu1 · #14 11-24-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DGDobrev

I agree that what you guys are proposing is logical, but do you really expect that they will make a patch with your proposal for all the versions (English, Russian, etc.) that have gone out by now?

Well they are going to make a patch sooner or later to fix all the text discrepancies and bugs(although this game has extremely few bugs. In fact i hadn't encountered any myself) in the game so why not correct the trap medal with that patch also. Nobody is saying that developer should get out a patch asap just to correct the trap medal problem.

Elwin · #15 11-24-2009, 03:47 PM

Well in PL version there was many localisation bugs and patch fixing that was released few days after release

travelingoz · #16 11-24-2009, 05:19 PM

In all fairness to the DEV's, the Trapper Medal makes complete sense to me. I don't see why you're all calling for a patch

If you are a "skilled" trapper and are able to "lure" enemies onto the trap, you are duly rewarded for your efforts! I can't see how earning a medal just for using the spell is either fair or fits in with the general theme.
So, if you can't be bothered grafting early game and getting it up a couple of levels when it's dead easy to do, that's your own laziness or lack of cunning. Nothing wrong with the game!

supersonu1 · #17 11-24-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by travelingoz

If you are a "skilled" trapper and are able to "lure" enemies onto the trap, you are duly rewarded for your efforts!

That just it we are NOT being rewarded for being just luring the enemy to trap. We have to kill the entire stack. You have completely missed the point of the entire thread and I will suggest you should read the posts from beginning.

Zechnophobe · #18 11-24-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Maybe we should make a tread for those...

There are some drums you can get that say "+1 morale to all troops" but only effects human troops.

I'm not sure if it belongs here, but one change between KB:TL and KB:AP is that the circle of light spell (AoE heal) no longer heals black dragons. So that's also a discrepancy, as it were.

DGDobrev · #19 11-24-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by supersonu1

Well they are going to make a patch sooner or later to fix all the text discrepancies and bugs(although this game has extremely few bugs. In fact i hadn't encountered any myself) in the game so why not correct the trap medal with that patch also. Nobody is saying that developer should get out a patch asap just to correct the trap medal problem.

Fair enough. But why do you think that this is a problem? It is completely acceptable and conceivable that the designers simply made it like this.

In any case, only time will tell.

travelingoz · #20 11-24-2009, 06:51 PM

No Supersonu it is you who can't read! Hover your mouse over the hero display and see what the description of the medal says! "lure the enemy to its fate". I may agree if the battlefield was much larger and had no obstacles on it, however it's not! So the changes you're proposing will require little or no skill at all.
Along with the Grand Strategy Medal, it's one of the only other ones that require any degree of skill to achieve and thus is very satisfying when one does.
What we should be complaining about to the DEV's is the fact that the other 5 or 6 medals require little skill or imagination. Not trying to dumb down one of the ones that do.