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InfiniteStates · #1 11-12-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

I will say the adults here know I'm right,and are all wondering if the brown on your nose comes from a DEVELOPER or a FORUM MOD.

Don't mistake brown nosing for defending a side of the argument where you can see the larger picture. If I were to say the all US Marines are thick as pig poo and are good for nothing other than doing what they're told like robotic lemmings*, and you then defend the USMC, does that make you guilty of brown nosing your President? I think not.

I will say that the adults on this forum are NOT the ones throwing a tantrum and trading in/making a coaster/taking a drill to a game that is perfectly good as it stands, off the shelf. The adults are the ones adapting to the game's foibles to still get plenty of fun that's there to be had while they wait...

Judging from your OP, it seems your main gripe is deliberate crashers and being denied rightful kills...? That is annoying, it's true. But everyone is in the same situation. How about instead of unoriginal ranting on a forum you don't care about, you instead learn to shoot better so that your opponent doesn't have the chance to screw you out of a kill? If you take out the engine, you get your kill instantly.

And to those that keep citing MW2's release day patch as a good example... You think that's acceptable do you? You think it's OK to ship a game knowing full well it needs a patch before it even hits the shelves. I think it's pathetic that MW2 has had 2 patches in as many days, it needs another one, and is not even a week old. Coupled with the fact that it's also the most expensive game ever, without a peripheral. MW2 is nothing more than an example of what happens when you rush fixes...

And please stop citing Forza 3 as well - that is number 3. For sequels there is very little to do except add content, which is just the tip of the iceberg when you consider all the work that goes into the underlying game. In fact, if the core game is written well, you could conceivably churn out sequel after sequel with no programmer involvement whatsoever.

* Note: that was hypothetical - I'm not saying that.

IiI GUNNY IiI · #2 11-12-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Don't mistake brown nosing for defending a side of the argument where you can see the larger picture. If I were to say the all US Marines are thick as pig poo and are good for nothing other than doing what they're told like robotic lemmings*, and you then defend the USMC, does that make you guilty of brown nosing your President? I think not.

I will say that the adults on this forum are NOT the ones throwing a tantrum and trading in/making a coaster/taking a drill to a game that is perfectly good as it stands, off the shelf. The adults are the ones adapting to the game's foibles to still get plenty of fun that's there to be had while they wait...

Judging from your OP, it seems your main gripe is deliberate crashers and being denied rightful kills...? That is annoying, it's true. But everyone is in the same situation. How about instead of unoriginal ranting on a forum you don't care about, you instead learn to shoot better so that your opponent doesn't have the chance to screw you out of a kill? If you take out the engine, you get your kill instantly.

* Note: that was hypothetical - I'm not saying that.

No I have no problem getting kills.And I think the game WAS great.But the BS about the update has made almost all the players leave and its hard to find more than one game going on at at time.The game I waited for three years has turned in to something like OVER-G the same ten guy chasing each other down.So its not me Im worried about IT`s the game .

And by the way I waited for this game,Payed for flight stick and game.and my Xbox.and my big screen so if I want to bitch,I reserve that right.And I could give a flip if anyone agrees with me or not.

InfiniteStates · #3 11-12-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

No I have no problem getting kills.And I think the game WAS great.But the BS about the update has made almost all the players leave and its hard to find more than one game going on at at time.The game I waited for three years has turned in to something like OVER-G the same ten guy chasing each other down.So its not me Im worried about IT`s the game .

Well I think the fact that it is a very niche game and it was released just before a slew of other great games is probably more to blame for the decline of online players. And no amount of patching will fix that. I also think that those expecting the patch to be a kiss of life to the game are in for a sore disappointment. The patch will improve some things and that's about it.

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Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

And by the way I waited for this game,Payed for flight stick and game.and my Xbox.and my big screen so if I want to bitch,I reserve that right.And I could give a flip if anyone agrees with me or not.

Be that as it may, it doesn't buy you the right to stoop to personal insults on the level of "brown nosing children". For that the currency is your soul and the vendor is the devil

AutomaticAddict · #4 11-13-2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

No I have no problem getting kills.And I think the game WAS great.But the BS about the update has made almost all the players leave and its hard to find more than one game going on at at time.The game I waited for three years has turned in to something like OVER-G the same ten guy chasing each other down.So its not me Im worried about IT`s the game .

And by the way I waited for this game,Payed for flight stick and game.and my Xbox.and my big screen so if I want to bitch,I reserve that right.And I could give a flip if anyone agrees with me or not.

I feel the same as well. Maybe I was over-exagerating the whole coaster post. However I also think the same people behind this game also made several titles for pc to hone their flight model prowess...I am really angry about the P-51d, I wanted that plane and it burns me to know that if anyone tested it first, the thing has a little bit of a "flying problem" to say the least and thanks for messing up the P-47D I payed for and played other sims to get myself prepared, just to be easily out-turned by an IL-4 bomber. Nice, all the ruskie planes rock, and everything save the brit planes are fodder...I get the message being American. They had better adjust the fuel load on all the planes...Makes me want to kick someone in the balls after playing awhile.

David603 · #5 11-13-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AutomaticAddict

I feel the same as well. Maybe I was over-exagerating the whole coaster post. However I also think the same people behind this game also made several titles for pc to hone their flight model prowess...I am really angry about the P-51d, I wanted that plane and it burns me to know that if anyone tested it first, the thing has a little bit of a "flying problem" to say the least and thanks for messing up the P-47D I payed for and played other sims to get myself prepared, just to be easily out-turned by an IL-4 bomber. Nice, all the ruskie planes rock, and everything save the brit planes are fodder...I get the message being American. They had better adjust the fuel load on all the planes...Makes me want to kick someone in the balls after playing awhile.

Don't blame the creators of the PC Il2 series for the messed up flight models in BoP. The PC Il2 series was made by Maddox Games, while Birds of Prey was made by Gaijin Entertainment, using the Il2 game engine and name.

I know Anton has been claiming BoP uses the PC Il2 flight models, but the P51D in BoP does not fly like the P51D in Il2. The P51 in Il2 1946 is a capable performer, fast and reasonably maneouverable, especially at high altitude, and while it can be a handfull to fly with a high fuel load it is in a different league from the P51 in BoP, which is at least 50mph slower and stalls in anything but the gentlest of turns.

Same goes for the P47, while the various models of Fw190 seems heavier than they should be (lower acceleration/top speed and easier to stall than PC versions).

AutomaticAddict · #6 11-13-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David603

Don't blame the creators of the PC Il2 series for the messed up flight models in BoP. The PC Il2 series was made by Maddox Games, while Birds of Prey was made by Gaijin Entertainment, using the Il2 game engine and name.

I know Anton has been claiming BoP uses the PC Il2 flight models, but the P51D in BoP does not fly like the P51D in Il2. The P51 in Il2 1946 is a capable performer, fast and reasonably maneouverable, especially at high altitude, and while it can be a handfull to fly with a high fuel load it is in a different league from the P51 in BoP, which is at least 50mph slower and stalls in anything but the gentlest of turns.

Same goes for the P47, while the various models of Fw190 seems heavier than they should be (lower acceleration/top speed and easier to stall than PC versions).

Rightly noted, I hope the extra time they are taking on the update addresses the fuel load issues on all affected "flying boats" and in turn gives all of them a fighting chance. Maybe even some credit. I would play this game 100% more than I have lately ( 0% ). It just gets frustrating to the point I need to vent every now and then...

cyclone70 · #7 11-12-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Judging from your OP, it seems your main gripe is deliberate crashers and being denied rightful kills...? That is annoying, it's true. But everyone is in the same situation.

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