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10-10-2009, 02:46 AM
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So is this wrong? Should the SM.79 be faster or the I-16 slower? So far nothing you say speaks much except that you are a SM.79 fanboi and are biased. But yes, I agree with the general consensus that the damage model of the SM.79 as it is currently, is acceptable and not too tough. So I will agree with you on that level. Last edited by Fearfactor; 10-10-2009 at 02:48 AM. 
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10-10-2009, 05:39 AM
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The P 39 D2 will dispatch the SM 79 quite easily.
As will the P38. The Beaufighter tears it to pieces.
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 Personally speaking, the P-40 could contend on an equal footing with all the types of Messerschmitts, almost to the end of 1943. ~Nikolay Gerasimovitch Golodnikov
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10-10-2009, 07:46 AM
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From Il-2 Compare, Max Speed of the Gladiator is ~ 410km/h at ~4000m From the 4.09 patch notes, Max speed of the I-16 5 is 445km/h at 2500m My guess is the AI SM.79 is just flying in default bomber mode: cruise at 300km/h, and turn occasionally. I suspect if you tried to fly against them in a scramble type mission, you'd have a bad time catching them.
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10-10-2009, 08:23 AM
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Porked DM ? I tried to fly a SM.79 against a couple of Hurricanes IIb in Ace mode ... Well they killed quickly my rear gunner and then the rest of the crew, and damaged seriously wings and control surfaces. The only damage they suffered, despite some good shooting of my gunner from dead six at short distance, was a thin fuel trail from one of them. One test does not make a statistic, but it denies a wrong theory.
Regards, insuber
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10-07-2009, 08:14 AM
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As you wish, mate.
Here they are: http://www.4shared.com/file/13819986...M79_sdown.html http://www.4shared.com/file/13819985...-_sdown_2.html http://www.4shared.com/file/13819987...wn_3_-_PK.html Now, if you don't believe, then I don't know what else to do... Oh, and about cutting the wing with a short burst, I didn't. The engine exploded, ripping the wing off  .
Last edited by Lucas_From_Hell; 10-07-2009 at 08:18 AM.
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10-07-2009, 08:39 AM
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Hello, Tipo_Man... Do you have "TRACKS" for the pictures you posted? I'd love to check them out... Last edited by proton45; 10-07-2009 at 08:41 AM.
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10-07-2009, 08:44 AM
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But it won't be a problem to recreate that picture. In conf.ini set: Arcade=1 and start shooting...
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#8
10-07-2009, 10:06 AM
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Hmm
I've never been one for posting screen shots and tracks of how to shoot things down, but this threads typical of one seen many times over and over, the years. Stukas suffered the worst years ago due to whining from DF servers trying to recreate BoB maps on Crimea using the Stuka B-2 Eastern front as a BoB Stuka, consequentially its DM was weakened so Hurris could set them on fire and kill them in their droves, I hope the SM 79 DM doesn't go the same way. I have no problem downing this aircraft with any Mg's Poor tactics will always lead to pilots moaning about plane being too tough. Here's a screen shot of a head on pass using a I53 M-62 Arming 4 x 7.62mm mg Settings are the usual realistic gunnery on etce etc After a single headon pass slightly to the left of the SM79 with rudder applied, SM 79 drops payload and is out of the mission it eventually spirals down and crashes, by which time you would have moved on to the next target.  Track below http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YM2NBP82 Last edited by KG26_Alpha; 10-07-2009 at 10:35 AM.
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#9
10-07-2009, 10:50 AM
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110% agreed, Alpha.
I just can't understand why some IL-2 fans love to whine that much... Unless you hacked some government computers, there's little chance of you having access to more (and more reliable) information than the developers. Doing a game or an official add-on is way different of making those ugly franken-planes with bizarre flight and damage models some still claim to be better than the originals... Why to whine? "Man, the damage model is horrible! I can't kill it!" Be a man and go train some gunnery or find a way around the "porked" damage model of the planes that only fails with you because they hate you so much that they made you download a different version than the rest of the world, so that you would die trying to shoot down the S.M.79. Need examples? I sent you the tracks you asked for, and you didn't answered me so far. I also put the video on YouTube, for easy viewing, but of course, when something is different than you expected, it's always cheating or video editing... Please, if you can't shoot a 1936 bomber down, hang yourself, or improve your gunnery, or go fly those boilers of Flight Simulator. We have prooved you it can be done, so stop the whining and, please, admit you were wrong. It's better for everyone. By the way, it's funny how people sometimes get irritated about jokes  Please don't take me badly, mate. The vid was just a way of having fun
Last edited by Lucas_From_Hell; 10-07-2009 at 11:00 AM.
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10-07-2009, 11:27 AM
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Nice Track Alpha, I know we all want realism but surely that is down to how the pilot fly's, maybe an inexperienced pilot would attack a bomber from behind and then just stay there hoping to get a kill, but in doing so taking hits himself. From most books I have read most pilots would make a pass on an aircraft hoping to get critical damage and then break off and find another target very much like Alpha has done here, obviously attacking in a position that would be least likely for you to sustain damage would be prefered.
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