Landing Tips

[Pup]

Whats the general consensus on sim mode, when you you are trying to slow down after landing, and the plane takes a sudden nose dive and crashes even when you are holding back on the stick. Bug or intended?

Originally Posted by Pup

Whats the general consensus on sim mode, when you you are trying to slow down after landing, and the plane takes a sudden nose dive and crashes even when you are holding back on the stick. Bug or intended?

vertical speed!!!!!
more throttle guy!

[King Jareth]

I think he means the one when you slow down to 30mph on the ground and the plane pitches nose first into the dirt.
I hope its a bug.

[Voyager]

Oh, you're braking to much. If the tail starts to lift when you're braking, let off some. The tail-draggers only had brakes on the front wheels, and the CoG tends to be forward of the wings, so there's almost no force on the tail wheel, so its pretty easy to pitch the thing if you're not careful. Think of it like a motorcycle, where you only have the front brake.

Tricycle gear planes, like the P-39, and most modern planes have much less problem with that, though if the nose gear is not well built (Me-262), you can still snap it off with to much brakeforce and turn.

One other handy landing manuver if you've got indendent rudder and roll control is the side slip. You roll in one direction, and aply rudder in the other direction, and instead of turning, you sort of end up going sideways. It increases your drag and helps you slow down if you're coming in to hot, and if you're lined up you can snake back and forth to keep from getting to far off the landing path. Just remember to let up when you're in the final approach. I recall in Il-2 1946 one landing in the Mig-15, where I ended up having to side slip down 3km of altitude, because I just couldn't bleed enough speed off of that thing. I think I was pointing 15 degrees off flight path for most of that landing.

Harry Voyager

[King Jareth]

Theres a bug with flightsticks right now where you have no wheelbrakes at all so it isnt that.

Thanks for the side slipping tips, I've tried it once or twice but never seem to get it right....

[TEL79]

Originally Posted by King Jareth

I think he means the one when you slow down to 30mph on the ground and the plane pitches nose first into the dirt.
I hope its a bug.

I can land He 111 to the streets of Berlin, but I can't stop Spitfire, La5FN and La-7 from nosing at 30 mph (57 km/h). You don't really even need brakes with Aviator, the speed decreases quite well with just landing flaps. I would just like to see this flipping bug be patched. And it is a bug for sure, and there is no way to avoid it. Because of the "flip 57" bug, inspect airfields cannot be accomplished in Sim-difficulty. Landing in the sim is quite fun with other planes though, and I play a lot landing-take off's in training mode (which is the salvation of the game, since no game mode requires you to land and take off really). It would be fun if ammo could be replensihed by landing and taking off at airfield.

[Voyager]

Well, if the FM is anything like Il-2 1946, you shouldn't slow down that well with just landing flaps. I'm going to guess that they stop-gapped the no brakes bug by making breaks always active, and that's why you're getting the Spit's and Lagg's pitching, when the He-111 isn't.

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by TEL79

I can land He 111 to the streets of Berlin, but I can't stop Spitfire, La5FN and La-7 from nosing at 30 mph (57 km/h). You don't really even need brakes with Aviator, the speed decreases quite well with just landing flaps. I would just like to see this flipping bug be patched. And it is a bug for sure, and there is no way to avoid it. Because of the "flip 57" bug, inspect airfields cannot be accomplished in Sim-difficulty. Landing in the sim is quite fun with other planes though, and I play a lot landing-take off's in training mode (which is the salvation of the game, since no game mode requires you to land and take off really). It would be fun if ammo could be replensihed by landing and taking off at airfield.

Does this 'bug' also happen when you don't pull back on the stick? In 1946 when you'd land a plane somewhere else then on a runway, it would bounce like mad and you'd have a better chance of keeping the nose up by just letting the controls be.

Originally Posted by TEL79

I can land He 111 to the streets of Berlin, but I can't stop Spitfire, La5FN and La-7 from nosing at 30 mph (57 km/h). You don't really even need brakes with Aviator, the speed decreases quite well with just landing flaps. I would just like to see this flipping bug be patched. And it is a bug for sure, and there is no way to avoid it. Because of the "flip 57" bug, inspect airfields cannot be accomplished in Sim-difficulty. Landing in the sim is quite fun with other planes though, and I play a lot landing-take off's in training mode (which is the salvation of the game, since no game mode requires you to land and take off really). It would be fun if ammo could be replensihed by landing and taking off at airfield.

For free flight I use to fly in Simulation mission in tutorial. I start to fly then when instructor ask to "zoom" I ignore it and I fly everywhere in Kent with my Hurricane. I enjoy it landing everywhere, on the street also.
hurricane at 30mph pitch down too, but just a little bit and landings can be accomplished.

Originally Posted by King Jareth

I think he means the one when you slow down to 30mph on the ground and the plane pitches nose first into the dirt.
I hope its a bug.

Oh yes, I am sorry to misunderstand.
Its a bug and i hope will be fixed soon. At 30 mph aircraft dig.