Smug Question, but a question never the less.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by nudger1964

see, your missing the point....that makes it more like a study task...its a fun game to me and my sort. it really dosnt matter untill i come up against someone like you, and i suspect you would get me regardless of my knowledge of the aircraft.
i think what you need to do, is think of people like me as the rookie with 5hrs flying experiance before put in the front line. that way we can all enjoy the game at the level we choose

Well if you enjoy the era, and enjoy the planes. You wouldn't think of it as a "study task". It would be beneficial to adding to your knowledge of the era, and the planes. So next time you go to an Airshow, and possibly see a Yak-3 by the name of White 100, you'll know that the White 100 Yak-3 is powered by an Allison rather than the original VK105-PF-2 engine. And also, you'd probably respect them more.

I don't spend all day playing the game, but I have grown an interest in many WW2 planes that most of the time get over looked? If you enjoy the planes, and such, then learning more about them doesn't hurt.

[TRC Subaru]

…Actually Ace I really just wanted to know if you drink Stoli because I would like to go drinking with you some time…

…I bet I would learn a lot of great flying secrets once you had a few chilled Stoli’s in you…

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by TRC Subaru

…Actually Ace I really just wanted to know if you drink Stoli because I would like to go drinking with you some time…

…I bet I would learn a lot of great flying secrets once you had a few chilled Stoli’s in you…

My preferred beer is either PBR (When I've only got $10 to my name ) or if I've got more, whatever I can blow it on. LOL Stoli I can handle

Now this is going to turn into a "Who wants to share a beer with who?" Thread. LOL

[Smidlee]

I've never read or seen anywhere the P-51 handle as badly as it is in the game. You can learn everything there is to know about the P-51 including fly a real one and it still handles like crap in this game. Besides, any knowledge I gain about WW2 planes doesn't help me one bit in real life.
When it comes down to it to some it's just a game. I know I wouldn't use the same tactic in real life as I have in a FPS.

This game (especially the PC version) has a very steep learning curve. Because of this I think it's better to stick with one or two planes until you learn how to knock down planes. I totally disagree with you that a novice should try to learn the characteristic of every plane as I have no doubt there some players can take the P-51 and shoot me down no matter what I fly. One of the things that discourages me from playing online PC IL-2 a few years ago was there were so many good players who has played IL-2 for years. Some seem to be able to kill the pilot with a few shoots.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Well I do. I mean it's kinda common knowledge to know that the 109 a high altitude fighter, can't do much against a low altitude Yak-3 unless he tries to BnZ, but usually I just get out of their way when that happens.

Which points out the problem with the way the map works in sim mode. It's hardly realistic to always detect an enemy about to bounce you.

The map needs to only give general idea where enemy is on grid - not exact position.

Currently, all advantage is pretty much to turn fighting planes. This leaves 109, 190, p51 and others as pretty pointless in sim or any other mode.

In addition, the 109g6 and K4 are saddled with the extra weight of wing cannons - hardly a common config for those planes.

[nudger1964]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Well if you enjoy the era, and enjoy the planes. You wouldn't think of it as a "study task". It would be beneficial to adding to your knowledge of the era, and the planes. So next time you go to an Airshow, and possibly see a Yak-3 by the name of White 100, you'll know that the White 100 Yak-3 is powered by an Allison rather than the original VK105-PF-2 engine. And also, you'd probably respect them more.

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i so rest my case

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Smidlee

I've never read or seen anywhere the P-51 handle as badly as it is in the game. You can learn everything there is to know about the P-51 including fly a real one and it still handles like crap in this game. Besides, any knowledge I gain about WW2 planes doesn't help me one bit in real life.
When it comes down to it to some it's just a game. I know I wouldn't use the same tactic in real life as I have in a FPS.

This game especially the PC version does have a very steep learning curve. Because of this I think it's better to stick with one or two planes until you learn how to knock down planes. I totally disagree with you that a novice should try to learn the characteristic of every plane as I have no doubt there some players can take the P-51 and shoot me down. That's one of the things that discourages me from playing online PC IL-2 a few years ago was there were so many good players who has played nothing but IL-2 for years. Some seem to be able to kill the pilot with a few shoots.

I didn't say all the planes, just the planes they frequently use. It does help believe me. My friend was clueless while flying the Spitfire MkIX, but once he looked some stuff up on it etc. he's a pro now.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by nudger1964

i so rest my case

Since when was learning about something a bad thing? Just increasing your knowledge of a plane or two doesn't hurt anything. But I can tell from you, your not very intelligible? Maybe just looking at pictures would suit you?

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Smidlee

This game (especially the PC version) has a very steep learning curve. Because of this I think it's better to stick with one or two planes until you learn how to knock down planes. I totally disagree with you that a novice should try to learn the characteristic of every plane as I have no doubt there some players can take the P-51 and shoot me down no matter what I fly.

I'm not saying a novice should master every plane, I'm saying they should try them out, not just to see which airplane you like best, but also what the disadvantages are so you can use them when someone else flies the plane.

[Cwl]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Not a lot of people realise the performance limitations that come with each aircraft. Guess they don't try out a lot of planes. My guess is most people recognize the Spit as an awesome plane, and when they try to fly it they get sick of the wingdrops. So they try the next plane: the 109. This one is pretty easy to fly, so they stick with it. I love it when I'm the only La-7 in a room full of 109's. I'll outturn them anytime. And that with an airplane that is surprisingly easy to fly as well. The Spit IV outturns the La, but is a lot trickier to fly.
I guess people should just try out more different planes, and they'll notice how they fly.

there's a lot of planes in this game and they all perform differently. basically you need to have a lot of experience with your aircraft. like a real pilot really. a rookie who doesnt know the limitations of his aircraft will always be easy meat to a veteran who knows what he is doing.