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Old 09-21-2009, 07:29 PM
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I would love an option to turn jets on or off. Simple as that.
I'm sure our pilots in WW2 would have loved to have turned the jets off too, but they couldn't, so they didn't bitch and moan about it and developed tatics to deal with them.

War isn't fair, it never has been, so why would a realistic war sim be any different?
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:40 PM
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Well, I for one cannot fathom what the Po-2 is doing in there. Considering it has NO forward firing guns, and the bombs it carries are rather the suck, it's pointless.
It's just there to fool around with.



If you don't want jets change the max year you want aircraft to be from... Otherwise they are perfectly legitimate. I don't mind jets at all, and I personally can't use them very well anyways.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:48 PM
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I'm sure our pilots in WW2 would have loved to have turned the jets off too, but they couldn't, so they didn't bitch and moan about it and developed tatics to deal with them.

War isn't fair, it never has been, so why would a realistic war sim be any different?
Bit of a strange argument , can you image any game at all, that would word with that idea in the back of your head?

the WW2 pilots didnt play for FUN, they fought for and with their lives. We play a game, for fun (or so I think we are). An ace in a jet, against any piston plane, isnt fun.
And no, the WW2 pilots didnt say 'meh, they have jets, Im outa here'. We have a choice, and we can try to get an option of switching jets off.

game - real life
choice/fun - no choice/not funny

^^ you see the difference

a simple option of turning them off wouldnt bother many people. I agree they should be in the game, but I also agree that they ruin a lot of games.
So, is a on/off button so strange to wish for ?

PS. no I dont really mind a jet opponent, I mind them in my own team, because they will give you one less dogfighter. Just a guy who zooms by now and then
As an opponent:
1. he's not an ace -> they have one guy 'less' (a noob in a jet is not even 1/4 as dangerous as a noob in a piston).
^^ this sucks because I dont want an easy victory

2. he's an ace.. and there is NOTHING you can do about it, not even if you are better them him in your piston. If he knows how to fy it, there is no chance you can kill him

so, no, dont mind jets, but also, there is no way they make the game more fun

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Old 09-21-2009, 08:00 PM
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Bit of a strange argument , can you image any game at all, that would word with that idea in the back of your head?

the WW2 pilots didnt play for FUN, they fought for and with their lives. We play a game, for fun (or so I think we are). An ace in a jet, against any piston plane, isnt fun.
And no, the WW2 pilots didnt say 'meh, they have jets, Im outa here'. We have a choice, and we can try to get an option of switching jets off.

game - real life
choice/fun - no choice/not funny

^^ you see the difference

a simple option of turning them off wouldnt bother many people. I agree they should be in the game, but I also agree that they ruin a lot of games.
So, is a on/off button so strange to wish for ?

PS. no I dont really mind a jet opponent, I mind them in my own team, because they will give you one less dogfighter. Just a guy who zooms by now and then
As an opponent:
1. he's not an ace -> they have one guy 'less' (a noob in a jet is not even 1/4 as dangerous as a noob in a piston).
^^ this sucks because I dont want an easy victory

2. he's an ace.. and there is NOTHING you can do about it, not even if you are better them him in your piston. If he knows how to fy it, there is no chance you can kill him

so, no, dont mind jets, but also, there is no way they make the game more fun
Again though, turning the jets off because you dont like them would be like turning machine guns off in a FPS because you personally didn't like them. Sure you can do it, but are you better for it, or just proving your lack of skill to play the game you bought by ignoring a major factor because it doesn't suit your own personal play style?

All the games I host (which is pretty much every game I play as I get bored looking for games) is 1946, so if you come to my game, please leave complaints at the door! (not you personally it was an open statement)
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:04 PM
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Again though, turning the jets off because you dont like them would be like turning machine guns off in a FPS because you personally didn't like them. Sure you can do it, but are you better for it, or just proving your lack of skill to play the game you bought by ignoring a major factor because it doesn't suit your own personal play style?
I agree with you there. Jets are perfectly fine to use. They were put in the game and are legitimate planes... Don't forget that although games are for fun, sometimes the fun is the challenge.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:08 PM
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Again though, turning the jets off because you dont like them would be like turning machine guns off in a FPS because you personally didn't like them. Sure you can do it, but are you better for it, or just proving your lack of skill to play the game you bought by ignoring a major factor because it doesn't suit your own personal play style?

All the games I host (which is pretty much every game I play as I get bored looking for games) is 1946, so if you come to my game, please leave complaints at the door! (not you personally it was an open statement)
I do agree on that argument . And yes, it is because it doesnt suit my playing style, or the style of the game I want to play. (personal opinion is ok right ?)

and my games are also 1946, because I dont want to lose planes like the LA-7 (not flying it myself). I just hope people dont take a jet. if they do, and I really dont like it at the moment, I will ask them to take another plane. 9/10 times they do, wich is great . if not, so be it
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:18 PM
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I do agree on that argument . And yes, it is because it doesnt suit my playing style, or the style of the game I want to play. (personal opinion is ok right ?)

and my games are also 1946, because I dont want to lose planes like the LA-7 (not flying it myself). I just hope people dont take a jet. if they do, and I really dont like it at the moment, I will ask them to take another plane. 9/10 times they do, wich is great . if not, so be it
I'm affraid my current plane of choice is the ME163, so you'll be hard pressed to tempt me out of it. I've tried all the rest, and the 163 best suits my style of play.

Right, I'm off to annoy a few prop lovers by flying the 163 in a few battles! Have fun
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