Without buying units

[fable]

Having finished the game on impossible with warrior and paladin, I thought I'd try something new to make it challenging with mage. The idea is that I won't buy any units. I wonder if anyone else tried that.
I'll miss Sleem, because I can't buy the snakes for him. I'll miss dryads as well. I hope playing mage is really that much easier than the other 2 to compensate. I think if I find some green dragon eggs I'll be fine.
I'm up to level 10 with full stack of vampires, ancient vampires, griffons, and sea dogs, thanks to sacrifice. Sadly, the first time I couldn't find sacrifice anywhere, not even in Demonis, so I had to restart, even though I had canoneers joining me. This time it was miners only. At the beginning I also restarted a lot of times until I found some ancient vampires in the cementery. There are about 10 sarcophagus and each has a slim chance to have them.
I also found a neat trick to get through the turtle boss easily, by chain casting mana spring and last hero on a sprite, which stood front of it. In theory a simple sprite could take out the turtle in 5000 turns

[Gatts]

There were threads on this forum about this option of gameplay, but mostly theoretical discussions, if or not it is possible. (It should be possible... )
But I do not remember someone finishing the game on impossible with this scenario... Most of the "unit containers" are for sell as well... So if the griffing king would have 30 griffing eggs... you would buy them or not?

Also I suggest to buy the spiders/snakes for sleem, as you won't using them in combat, it seems fine... I believe the point is not using bought units in combat... true?

[fable]

Originally Posted by Gatts

Most of the "unit containers" are for sell as well... So if the griffing king would have 30 griffing eggs... you would buy them or not?

Also I suggest to buy the spiders/snakes for sleem, as you won't using them in combat, it seems fine... I believe the point is not using bought units in combat... true?

It doesn't really make a difference, so I decided not to buy eggs and whatnot. With sacrifice you really need just one egg, and I just stole it from their nest.

With Sleem the infinite mana loop is too easy, as described in the zero loss strategy, and also very boring. I'll stick to the stricter rules and not buy his food
I will also not rely on invisibility or repetitive surrender from battles to stack up on sprites. Neat tricks though

[Gatts]

Well, still you need a lot of luck to get sacrifice... only if you would restart the game only for sake of getting sacrifice in the nearest cities... I actually remember getting sacrifice in hadar first... but I also believe that the mage academy has unlimited random generator, so it could contain sacrifice, if I am right...

So, you can get plants, fire dragonflies, spiders, snakes, skells and vamps... later on its griffins, ents... and even dragons... I could imagine playing like this max on normal... so if you go for impossible, good luck!

[lauvhk]

I finished an impossible game with no buying strategy as a mage because you get one awesome unit - Sprite - to start with. I only consume those eggs/units containers that are picked up along the road. So no purchase of those items whatsoever. The only items I ever used are Red/Black Dragon eggs and coffins.

The moot point in my game is that I use invisibility which is against your intention. So good luck.

Edit:
1. In my version, you can activate Sleem using the electric charger like you did with Lina.

2. I forgot that I did end up buying Cyclop/Snakes to finished the Magic School rare animal quest so I guess it is not a true "no buying" game. Unless those scrolls are really attractive, you can just pass on the quest.

[fable]

I'm at level 16 and spoke with Sleem, just asked what he wants, hoping he mentions those electric chargers. It said it's already at 116/100%, and ready to follow my orders. Maybe it fed on the corpses of the slain snakes, I'm not complaining.

By the way my army is still Sea Dogs (they don't actually do anything, I wonder why I keep them around), Griffins (just got Time Back for level 1-3, they are finally useful), vampires, ancient vampires and 5 red dragons. I'm not a fan of sprites

I still haven't found Resurrect, but Sacrifice on vampires was good enough until now, and now with time back it's even easier.

[fable]

I found a neat trick with griffins and time back. Let's say your leadership allows 100 griffins. Enter an easy battle with 66 griffins, split them and use time back. That way you'll have 66+33=99 griffins, and you will still have that many after the battle is over. A lot easier than using sacrifice.

I'm considering including black dragons. I believe I can heal them with the quested AE heal Life Light, I have 5 eggs already, and if I learn the diplomacy skill I can get more of them. Vampires and skeleton archers are not good against the undead, dragons will be good replacement. The skill is a bit expensive though.

I wonder how hard would it be to play without sacrifice in addition to not buying units. Maybe it's also possible even on "impossible". At least if you find "resurrect" early enough and allowing buying unit containers could get you a solid starting army.

[Ryastar]

Originally Posted by fable

I'm considering including black dragons. I believe I can heal them with the quested AE heal Life Light

No, life light doesn't heal black dragons. The ONLY way to heal them is with gizmo.

[Metathron]

AND Shaman's Axe. Why do people keep forgetting that?

[Ryastar]

Originally Posted by Metathron

AND Shaman's Axe. Why do people keep forgetting that?

Really? I could have sworn that i had tried that, and not had it work. My mistake