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Old 10-05-2009, 08:20 AM
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Default SM.79 porked (or forgotten) damage model

Well. The plane is in fact impossible to be shot down by any pre-1940 fighter. Even the 12 machinegun Hurri can't do the job, what about the rest of the fighters of its era, armed with 2 to 4 machine guns. I think this plane won't make it to any real online server because of this.
That is very sad...
We've been told that the patch would be made up to the Maddox quality, now we see a plane with a damage model which looks like a cheap MOD attempt...
Looks like that it has defined only the basic DM. i.e. strength of each part.
No specific spots to hit ot damage.
No fuel leaks, cut cables.
No pilot or gunners kills, neither fires.

I can create a MOD to fix tat in a day, but that is not the point.
The point is that we expected the final mod to unite the comminuty again. With such poor quality, it is reasonable that the majority will still stick with mods and previous versions....
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:50 AM
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I think people have been spoiled by thinking they can shoot bombers down easily with machine guns,and that was not the case.If Oleg makes the DM accurate in BoB/SoW boy will there be some whining!
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:34 AM
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Well. The plane is in fact impossible to be shot down by any pre-1940 fighter. Even the 12 machinegun Hurri can't do the job, what about the rest of the fighters of its era, armed with 2 to 4 machine guns. I think this plane won't make it to any real online server because of this.
That is very sad...
We've been told that the patch would be made up to the Maddox quality, now we see a plane with a damage model which looks like a cheap MOD attempt...
Looks like that it has defined only the basic DM. i.e. strength of each part.
No specific spots to hit ot damage.
No fuel leaks, cut cables.
No pilot or gunners kills, neither fires.

I can create a MOD to fix tat in a day, but that is not the point.
The point is that we expected the final mod to unite the comminuty again. With such poor quality, it is reasonable that the majority will still stick with mods and previous versions....
Apart from the statement that SM.79 is a tough plane to bring down with small caliber weapons (to which I agree), everything else you said is complete bollocks.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:39 AM
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Apart from the statement that SM.79 is a tough plane to bring down with small caliber weapons (to which I agree), everything else you said is complete bollocks.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:50 AM
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A first post on this board and such a negative attitude. Ok, it's Monday...

I have just downed SM.79 in Hurricane Mk.I... So what is the problem again?

A history lesson for you:

In 1944, Bulgarian Avias B-534 attacked U.S. B-24s. They have used up all their ammo and no bomber was shot down.

Or do you think that 20-30mm canons have been introduced on fighters just because they were "cool"?

Now take a Hurricane IIC and a Spitfire and let me know if you are not able to kill SM.79. And yes... try to attack from other positions than 6 o'clock.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:21 AM
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Would you please post a track here of downing a SM.79 with an I-16 type 6, Gladiator or whatever fighter of its era?

Please, post a track to prove I'm wrong...

What exactly makes this plane immune to pilot kills or fires?
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:24 AM
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Now take a Hurricane IIC and a Spitfire and let me know if you are not able to kill SM.79. And yes... try to attack from other positions than 6 o'clock.
Well, you can also take a Me-262 to shoot it down.
So Italy could have simply conquered all of the world till 1941, when actually Hurricane IIC appeared...
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:10 PM
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Pal,

You can try with one more plane helping to shot down this tough plane:

I choiced one more hurri to helpme:





But be careful with bombers full load of bombs and fuel


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Old 10-05-2009, 05:40 PM
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Pal,
You can try with one more plane helping to shot down this tough plane:
I choiced one more hurri to helpme:
So what?
Do I need to repeat my contest setup again?
Take a fighter, which is a historical opponent for that plane - 1936.
I-16 type 5(6) - which it fought in Spain.
Gladiator - fought in Africa
Fokker - what-if
B-534 - what-if
or some other early war, non-cannon armed fighter. In fact 20mm cannons in all countries (except France) appeared after 1940...

And please, I've no responsibility if you brake your joystick in anger
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:48 PM
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Using a bf110, I got the engine to catch fire, before the wing broke off, but it took a fair amounts of hits before anything happened.

I used the Fokker DXXI against it & ran out of ammo, but the engine was leaking fuel.

The Sm.79 is a nice plane to fly & it handles well.

Wish we could have a ju2 to fly around in - that was another tough old tri motor bird......
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