The Crystal Ball 2

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The million dollar question, why exactly are people wasting precious time in their lives making futile complaints? does everybody know the game has problems?.....yes, do we need to be told now we know it?......no, are the devs working to a solution?......yes, is there anything else the devs can do to fix the initial problem?.......no, do all the whiners keep comparing COD against ROF as a shining example of what a sim should be?........yes, do all these people get their quality stick time in on ROF while waiting for the COD fix?..........no.

1) People made complaints because it wasn't so long ago that people here told them it was their computers and the game was all good. Those people have now turned this completely around because the developers have more or less admitted problems with the game after initially telling them how good it was. All this does is bring mistrust and you wonder why people are still complaining? They are complaining because they don't know what to believe anymore or who to believe. The other fact of the matter is that I'm afraid it's human nature to complain about things we don't like. People complained to me that it was raining last week, but did I tell them they are whinging about something I have heard about all my life..No.

[flyingblind]

The problem is that more than a few people who visit this forum are quite simply addicts. And because they cannot get the fix or the high they so desperately crave then they exhibit all manner of strange and disturbing behaviors.

[bongodriver]

Rhetorical, I assume.

...but as many times as Clod...?

CoD isn't the worst ive seen, Fallout3 and Bioshock were 2 of the worst I ever had, I've been gaming for years and have had many more just as bad.

Who is this mysterious sect?

sect? who said anything about a sect? mysterious?......well I guess denial is expected from a member of the aforementioned 'people'

And how many games ahve you bought that were as bad as Clod on release? Honestly....? And not just bad o rbarely a barely functioning alpha, but with as many missing features...?

Ver, very few, I would bet.

You know that expression 'I've forgotten more than you know'?....I think that one applies here, genuinely COD is not the worst in my experience, but all I am left with is my experience and not a comprehensive list of names written with the foresight of having to explain my experience at a future date.

Where is this mysterious sect that said this? Hardly anyone by any chance....? More straw targets. When you can;t stick to the facts, invent ghost opposition, is that it?

Oh.....so am I inventing you right now? this isn't happening, when I post this reply there won't be any evidence of a post by you?

Ah, those mysterious 'people' again.

Well I'm sure they have been called worse, but with respect I will still consider them to be people.

I dont much like bubonic plague either (those damned bubos...) but it's ot got much to do with this. Nor has your post.

failed logic as my post is part of the subject matter being discussed.

It's a question of degree, as you well know.

Stop trying to imply that this was just 'slightly troubled' release, with a few problems commonly seen elsewhere. It isn't and it wasn't. It was breath-takingly bad.

I implied no such thing, again this is where your 'degree' is at fault, at no point have I 'ever' denied the problems with the game, I just found my 'breath' was not taken away due to my previous experience.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

hey, what can I say, I'm trying to be as fair as possible given the derangement on offer

Ben

At least I won't stoop to the lower levels of accusing everyone of being 'derranged' if they don't see it my way.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Bob_Marley

It wasnt that good ben.

Ah yes, a classic example of Bens 'sect' at work, slowly but surely they all start crowding round when they feel like they have someone trapped.
having run out of intelligent debate the slowly creeping attacks on credibility/sanity/intelligence are thrown in....any minute now I'm expecting the 'you can't educate pork' line.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

1) People made complaints because it wasn't so long ago that people here told them it was their computers and the game was all good. Those people have now turned this completely around because the developers have more or less admitted problems with the game after initially telling them how good it was. All this does is bring mistrust and you wonder why people are still complaining? They are complaining because they don't know what to believe anymore or who to believe. The other fact of the matter is that I'm afraid it's human nature to complain about things we don't like. People complained to me that it was raining last week, but did I tell them they are whinging about something I have heard about all my life..No.

True enough there were many people that had a much more positive experience of the game, which led many to believe the ones who were struggling must have had issues with hardware, better the devs made the admission after so long rather than denied it forever, but the admission was not made because people were being cry babies, there were more than likely enough constructive bug reports (you know...it's like complaining but without involving conspiracy theories and speculation)

if I ever find myself in a position in life where I don't know who to trust any more because I spent too much time on a forum then I will most likely cut the telephone wire.

so the rain last week is something you knew about all your life?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8...eature=related

You know what, you just can't educate pork...no, really, you can't...

in fact, the pork is porked....

Bongodriver said:

>>Ben
At least I won't stoop to the lower levels of accusing everyone of being 'derranged' if they don't see it my way. <<

Humour. Lightening the atmosphere. See the smilies.

And again...in case you missed them...



Ben

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Bongodriver said:

>>Ben
At least I won't stoop to the lower levels of accusing everyone of being 'derranged' if they don't see it my way. <<

Humour. Lightening the atmosphere. See the smilies.

And again...in case you missed them...



Ben

Hillarious..