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Old 01-30-2008, 03:31 PM
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IMO a more realistic project would be from Mers el-Kébir to Torch (1940 to 42 ),
at least for a 3rd party add-on :

P 36 Fly
D.520 Fly

Leo 451 Fly/AI
GM 167F AI

(optional :
MS 406 Fly
Potez 650 AI
Potez 63/11 Bloch 174 AI )

2 or 3 flyable and 1 or 2 IA are not impossible to do
But the main problem still the lack of datas for both CG model and FM :/
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:37 PM
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There is more chance of financial success with a BoB sim than a BoF.

The BoB is well known internationally. We here are military 'junkies'. Nothing wrong with that of course

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Old 02-02-2008, 02:33 AM
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Frankly Oleg would be crazy to start the SOW with the Battle of France. It has no recognition factor.
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Old 02-02-2008, 04:37 PM
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I think BoF would have been a better starting point to progress forward from. What I don't like is the MIG game being created on a divergent path with a dead-end map-and we all know what happened with PF.
All of us here will probably buy any air sim made by Maddox and those with less knowledge don't know the difference between the BOB and BOF anyway. People will buy a game with aircraft besides P-51's, Spitfires etc. just look at Il2! This used to be the attitude in the plastic model industry-to make only well known models, but look at that industry now.
If Oleg REALLY wanted to make a splash he should have made "the Med" product, now that would have been really something.
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:09 PM
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If Oleg REALLY wanted to make a splash he should have made "the Med" product, now that would have been really something.

"the Med" will most likely be the next installment of the Storm of War series.
The SOW series will be much more user friendly so BoF will be done by third parties for the .0000015 of the population who actually know what it was. If they asked 1000 people off the street if they recognise the period of the BOB or BoF. Maybe 100 could tell you what BOB was and ZERO would no what the BoF was unless they lived in Northwest France or Belgium. Even alot of us had very little knowledge of the air war on the Eastern Front.

People who know Olegs work will buy whatever theater he decides to do. Its all the others that need a recongnition factor.

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Old 02-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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Its all the others that need a recongnition factor.
A good recognized campaign would be the Strategic Bombing of Germany 1943-45 during daylight /nighttime.

I just hope you are correct about the "ease" of creating further campaigns with the new SOW engine thats already taken far to long to produce.
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Old 02-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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You will probably see a Western Front Bombing campaign as a paid add-on to the SOW series, if the series sells well, and computers can handle a large highly detailed map which should be possible in a couple of years.

It has taken this long because of all the paid and free add-ons developed for the IL-2 series when they could have been working on the SOW series. Its just as well because I don't think the average computer of year or two ago could have handled the amount of detail Oleg wants to put into the SOW series.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:55 PM
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The SOW series will be much more user friendly so BoF will be done by third parties
I highly doubt this will happen.
1) very few third-party 3D-experts are interested by BoF planes (as shawn by IL2 third party dev)
2) developping planes for SoW will be a lot more complicated than for IL2 (as per Oleg's own words)
3) all pre-projetcs of BoF achieved..... almost nothing....

Maybe we will see (made by third-party) 1 or 2 French planes and a minimap of somewhere in NW France some years after the release of SoW..... but that's probably the most we can expect...
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:13 PM
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Like I said...BoF will probably be done by a third party at some point. The existing BOB map will be usefull for some parts of the BoF. You will have some of the British and German aircraft already made. It definitely will take time for the French aircraft to be made and it could take years, depending on the expertise and time of the people making them. By that time....who knows a full western europe map may be in the works for future SOW expansions.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:37 PM
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It will take more than years.... it will take forever... since as I said, no 3D-dev (third party) is interested in build a French Aircraft.
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