Shame on you for using STEAM !

[JG53Frankyboy]

http://il-2-sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs...log/uk/?p=1162

from an user that had only had bad experinces every time i had to use steam - most times was not able to play the games...

[JG52Uther]

Well thats f*****d it.

[Revvin]

It may not be liked by everyone but I have bought around 90 games that run on that service with no issues at all. I find it a pretty slick service.

[JG52Uther]

How are online wars played on steam Revvin?

[JG53Frankyboy]

i have calmed down a bit

i still hope that this steam stuff is only a possibility for online play like in the past with UBI.
That you can still use tools like the Hyperlobby and are not forced to play via steam !

i guess some clarificationj is needed from official side here please !

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i have calmed down a bit

i still hope that this steam stuff is only a possibility for online play like in the past with UBI.
That you can still use tools like the Hyperlobby and are not forced to play via steam !

i guess some clarificationj is needed from official side here please !

Oleg commented some months ago that Steam would be included on the publisher's request, but 3rd party tools like hyperlobby would still be possible. Not sure if that info is till up to date though.

[JG52Uther]

Judging by the conflicting info about the release at UBI I doubt even they know whats going in...

[Yammo]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

...that you can still use tools like the Hyperlobby and are not forced to play
via steam !

i guess some clarificationj is needed from official side here please !

Imo, hyperlobby is horrible.
It behaves worse than steam in many respects, like...
- Forcing you to update or you woun't even get connected.
- Stealing Focus at every turn it can.
- Updates forcing itself into "C:\Program files" even-though HL isn't installed there.
- etc, etc...

So, any alternative to HL would be welcome in my book.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Yammo

- Updates forcing itself into "C:\Program files" even-though HL isn't installed

Now the fact you can't use a PC is HL's fault?

Buy a Mac.

[brando]

Originally Posted by Yammo

Imo, hyperlobby is horrible.
It behaves worse than steam in many respects, like...
- Forcing you to update or you woun't even get connected.
- Stealing Focus at every turn it can.
- Updates forcing itself into "C:\Program files" even-though HL isn't installed there.
- etc, etc...

So, any alternative to HL would be welcome in my book.

Well, hooray for you and your opinion(s) and I hope you won't mind me refuting a few of them.

After the crapfest that was the Ubi-lobby (where it was impossible to host from behind a router ffs!) the advent of Jiri's Hyperlobby was a godsend for the online community.
Provided free to all-comers it has undergone development throughout its ten years hosting online support for the IL-2 community and has only rarely been offline in that time.

So,
-updating is occasionally necessary. It doesn't occur automatically as Steam does, but gives you a choice, called an Installer window.
-There you have the option of directing your update to wherever you choose on your hard drive(s) by using said Installer window. Used properly it will function perfectly.
-during the short time that it takes to update you are able to read the list of functions and rules that have been updated and why. It makes interesting reading.
-it's all about improved functionality and usage.
-your comment about needing to use the latest version in order to connect is surely self-explanatory?
If hyperlobby is "stealing focus" then that is, sadly, down to user error.

Overall, I find the 'dissing' of applications such as hyperlobby objectionable.
Sure, we're all being urged to go forwards and use the latest and greatest of apps, or suffer the scorn of the converted - but I resent this Orwellian "two legs bad, four legs good" kind of propaganda. However antiquated Hyperlobby is (and that's arguable) it was absolutely key to the early success of IL-2 online after the fiasco that was the Ubi-hosted server lobby.
Jiri Fotjasek really rode to the rescue of the online game and deserves a little more respect than you seem prepared to offer him. On the other hand a large number of us do feel grateful and I think it'll be a sad day if we don't get the option to use the HL for CloD.

I don't think this makes me a Luddite, does it?