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Old 01-20-2010, 09:31 PM
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All this guessing what will take how long and when will it come if at all is a complete waste of time and space!!!
Those which talk aren't knowing and those who know aren't talking.
Your right Robtek, lets shut the forums down and just wait.
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We could.... you know.... talk about planes and history. Isn't that why we're here?
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:53 PM
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Nope, I'm here for the show.

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Old 01-21-2010, 06:38 AM
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Your right Robtek, lets shut the forums down and just wait.


Yes we should shut it down and take our children for a very long car ride...ARE WE THERE YET! repeat
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Yes we should shut it down and take our children for a very long car ride...ARE WE THERE YET! repeat
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:12 AM
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:12 AM
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At any rate, when the glorious Il2 will fade away in the shine of the triumphant almighty SoW, I will miss it a lot ... hundreds of planes, dozens of maps, an unparalleled playability ... trade in all that for a handful of flyable old crates and one single map ... SoW must be really really good...

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Insuber, you are looking at it from the wrong angle. "A handful of flyable old crates" indeed! We'll be flying the most sophisicated and advanced fighter aircraft in production during the time period covered by first installment of the sim
That's why Olegs sequence of starting at close to the begining of the conflict and working forward will keep us eagerly waiting for updates, patches and paid addon.

Compared this to Rise of flight where they started at the end of WWI and forgot about the first four years of the conflict - Imagine paying for a inferior aircaft to go onto a online server and get your arse whipped!

I would realy like to see a situation in SOW where the balance of power swaps backward and forward between the two sides as new aircraft sets are introduced. This would lead to a fantastic ride over the life of the sim (next 10 years or so )

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:19 AM
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Rise Of Flight maybe modelled 1917-18 for a reason, and did it damn well Been a while I enjoyed and had fun or even immersed myself to a flight sim..RoF did that, brought the smile back. I laugh my arse off flying these suicide planes, damn fun!

SoW will be an advancement in many things, but in what remains to be seen. For sure it brings graphics up to date..but that alone does not make a sim great. Oleg changed a lot in sim world with IL-2 and for sure will do so with SoW
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:39 AM
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Rise Of Flight maybe modelled 1917-18 for a reason, and did it damn well Been a while I enjoyed and had fun or even immersed myself to a flight sim..RoF did that, brought the smile back. I laugh my arse off flying these suicide planes, damn fun!

SoW will be an advancement in many things, but in what remains to be seen. For sure it brings graphics up to date..but that alone does not make a sim great. Oleg changed a lot in sim world with IL-2 and for sure will do so with SoW
Rise of flight 'DID' do very well and is still going strong, but the longevity of the sim will depend on how well they can keep their customers attention.

I bought ROF very early on and it's a good sim and getting better with each patch. I've also bought two of the expansion aircraft. Will I want to play a limited 1917-18 sim for a long time or will I get bored and move on? Only time will tell!

The point I was trying to make is that if you want to make an interesting simulated environment it's easier moving forward than back.

If you go forward intime you get get a mixture of older and newer aircraft as more are released. As in real life it gets to a point where the oldest planes become obsolite or move on to newer roles (fighter to ground attack maybe). To shift the balance of power you just have to release one or two modern aircraft and the environment becomes richer.

If you take the rise of flight model, where they are releasing the planes one or two at a time, when they decide to release earlier period aircraft early misson will only have one or two correct aircraft and the environment will be bland ands sterile. To make "interesting" early missions they will have to release a "pack" with a reasonable number of planes for the time period. This is not how they've been releasing planes up till now, so when it comes it will be a major undertaking for them.

I personally would have prefered ROF to have starting off in the 1914/15 time period and build the sim up over time. I will continue supporting the ROF deleopers by buying their updates as long as they keep it interesting for me.

That said I can see that Olegs model of development will (in all likely hood) keep me interested and checking for updates for a long time. (As long as he can keep it interesting for me that is!)

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