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Old 02-04-2008, 03:09 PM
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Certainly. IMO it's even necessary.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:39 PM
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Yes, my understanding is that there are two factors:
1. You can't model everything (not only does it take time and money, it also requires references)
2. United States courts have ruled so that modeling of most American aircraft requires permission of the company that "merged with"/"holds the trademarks of" for the relevant historic firm. It appears that Oleg was actually sued at one point and had to remove several aircraft from the game and pay to model others.

If you don't like this contact your Veteran's associations...
I believe the trouble came when the use of the manufacturers name in print such as "Grumman" F6F Hellcat. Had something like F6F or just Hellcat been used I dont think the case is ever made. Thats what I gather from all the speculating rumors over the years.

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Old 02-05-2008, 01:18 PM
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I believe the trouble came when the use of the manufacturers name in print such as "Grumman" F6F Hellcat. Had something like F6F or just Hellcat been used I dont think the case is ever made. Thats what I gather from all the speculating rumors over the years.

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Doesn't matter F6F or Hellcat.... even image was prohibited.... Such a true story happened.....
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:22 PM
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Doesn't matter F6F or Hellcat.... even image was prohibited.... Such a true story happened.....
Yes but something was changing in USA for the 3D model royalties, if i remember well. An online magazine talked about this problems some time ago.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:33 PM
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The new update is very nice

The ability to have more than one human player in a multi-crewed plane is really cool. Will this be limited to training, or is there an intention to expand this to other types, like bombers, at some point in the future?

This will open up a lot of possibilities, especially if it's combined with electronic aids for night bombing and interception. H2S radar, German nightfighters and pathfinding Mosquitoes with Oboe equipment comes to mind.

Also, can the BoB engine support a new type of coop gameplay? For example, starting a dynamic coop campaign for a bomber. Like if i want to i can play alone, but if my friends can join me online they can be the gunners?

I know this might be asking for too much at this stage, but the 1C team is giving us so many new things that i'll be happy anyway. It looks like they are building an engine that will support so many unique new things that it will be the new benchmark for future flight sims not only in damage and flight models, but gameplay variety as well. It's good to know that all this time spent waiting is not in vain, so thanks to all of them for the updates and for thinking like gamers and not only like company members.

EDIT: One more small question. Is it possible to have light reflecting off the planes? I was watching the trailers for Mysticpuma's new film project and then i remembered that back in Rowan's Mig Alley you could spot the F86s because their metal finish would occasionally "flash" in the sunlight.

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Thanks for the clarification Oleg; and the update on the Tigermoth.

Excuse me if I seem to be bashing again but I can’t get my head around the “logic” of the firms involved.

The nation is under attack: and the citizens and companies are threatened: the citizens ask the companies to produce products that will make it possible for the citizens to protect the nation and the companies from that threat: the citizens pays for them in full: the companies are protected and makes a profit; the citizens pay in both gold and in blood: jet the companies owns it all!?

I know that it’s often a huge gap between law and moral but this…

*Viking shakes his head*

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Old 02-05-2008, 02:43 PM
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Do not look for logic and common sense among suits and ties, Viking. There you'll find only greed and suffocated creativity.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:59 PM
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With regards to the Tiger Moth; will you also create and add additional training aircraft like say the Airspeed Oxford (in the case of later Expansions of SOW)
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@csThor
you know of course that if someone wears a tie the blood circulation to the brain is severly reduced.
That explains most, if not any, decicions of those people.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:57 PM
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The Tiger Moth looks as if it is really coming along nicely. I took a lot of photos of the Tiger Moth in the Brussels Aviation museum, I hope those helped out in the modelling work.

I also hope for at least a German trainer, but from what I read somewhere else, it won't be in the first installement of SoW.
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