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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-02-2011, 07:45 PM
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:54 PM
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Mixing action -> reaction?
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:46 PM
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Should have added no WW2 sim in the works that challenges CoD..RoF is a good sim, never denied that and I own it as well
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:26 PM
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The A2A Spitfire with the Accusim stuff is actually a lot of fun and seems amazingly well modelled - even without guns that fire.

It may not be a WWII combat flight sim, but it's definitely a WWII flight sim. If you've never tried flying the A2A Spit and you have the chance to do so, you should. Might not be your cup of tea, but it's definitely an experience.

At the very least it'll make you wish the cockpits in CloD were that detailed and functional.
To be a WWII flight sim you would need a WWII map, environments and associated objects to fly in. I thought the A2A Spitfire whas just a plane. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, how does FSX go with thirty odd players go in the one map. WWII was all about formations of aircraft.

Both apples and oranges are very good but difficult to compare.

My understanding of the FSX and A2A spitfire is that you have a modern day flight sim with a WWII aircraft (very detailed) in it. But that does not make it a WWII Flight Sim.

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Old 12-03-2011, 07:39 AM
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To be a WWII flight sim you would need a WWII map, environments and associated objects to fly in. I thought the A2A Spitfire whas just a plane. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, how does FSX go with thirty odd players go in the one map. WWII was all about formations of aircraft.

Both apples and oranges are very good but difficult to compare.

My understanding of the FSX and A2A spitfire is that you have a modern day flight sim with a WWII aircraft (very detailed) in it. But that does not make it a WWII Flight Sim.

Cheers!
Exactly, you can't expect the same level of detail on EVERY aircraft in CLoD. Then I'd probably be Battle of Britain - "Spitfire vs 109...and nothing else". You have to take in to consideration that CloD is a COMBAT flight sim and that it has many other parts of the game that need equal amount of attention as the planes. The A2A Spitfire guys only has to take focus on one single thing, the plane. No ballistics, no DM, A.I? etc. It surely is the most accurate Spitfire but that's all it is, one single plane. IMO.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:34 AM
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After reading a bit the sukhoi forum, I see the light at the end of the tunnel. And maybe it is not the train .
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I wish CrazyIvan were still around to help us with the translations, and everything else.

He was a good member of the community.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:16 PM
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My last two cents..well..maybe 3...
First of all..there is a LOT I like about the game..the graphics are pretty stunning, the attention to detail is uncompromising..when sitting in the cockpit..no other game has ever reached this bar, and I do like the sounds. However, that being said..that is all well and good, but JUST eye candy, if the game itself does not run smoothly.
Robo mentioned NO game can run maxed out on computers made today..patently false, I can play crysis2 with Dx11 (much more taxing than Clods 9.0c) on my pc with all setting maxed, it plays wonderfully, Red orchestra 2 on all settings Ultra/war movie plays smoothly. So, that is just not true that todays pc's are incapable of running demanding games maxed out.
2. I have been playing flight sims since the days of the commdore 64 and the amiga..and have played probably every WW2 based since since then, so Im not new to flight sim. I am not "new" to this game..have been following its dev for the last 3/4 year when it was initially being worked on, and helped work on other games in Russia when I was living there, I bought this game when it came out..having seen it had been released in the UK first..with many problems, and thought sufficient time had passed to deal with them.

I have followed all the patches..technical threads, however, the bottom line is the game was/is just not what it was promised to be, and hearing a development team say they are reworking the entire graphics engine well after they have spent years on the game tells me someone got something very wrong. You dont spend 7 years designing and releasing a new Porsche then after its out on the market decide you need to rethink and replace the powertrain.
NOW, as a practicing attorney for last 25 years, I can tell you IMO the listing the recommended specs for this game as they were, and the minumum requirements borders of Fraud, thats just my opinion, others will disagree, but please unless you have a law degree and have practiced both criminal and civil law, your opinion may not carry much weight with me. Enticing others to buy a product by setting out min/recommended specs and then having the game fall short of even computers which exceed those guidelines IF nothing else is just ethically wrong. However, that is the world we live in today with software, and its not about to change THAT is the crux of my disappointment, I invest no small sum of cash in building a pc that should play this game effortlessly only to find out it does not, because somewhere along the line the developers decided the public was going to do the beta testing by means of general release, and we are the ones left holding the product which does not play as described, minus our money.
Those are my concerns, for now, the game gets shelved until something productive is released, and when Im flying in combat my FPS dont drop to 14, unacceptable.
Plenty of games being released every month, much more worthy of my time and money I hope, and I'll stick to those.
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[QUOTE=ingsoc84;366989]My last two cents..well..maybe 3...

NOW, as a practicing attorney for last 25 years, I can tell you IMO the listing the recommended specs for this game as they were, and the minumum requirements borders of Fraud, thats just my opinion, others will disagree, but please unless you have a law degree and have practiced both criminal and civil law, your opinion may not carry much weight with me. Enticing others to buy a product by setting out min/recommended specs and then having the game fall short of even computers which exceed those guidelines IF nothing else is just ethically wrong. QUOTE]

Thank you good sir. thank you. its not the only area thats at fault though. however theres tom dick and harry that disagree and see nothing wrong. Tom is the developer, Harry is the 1C forum moderators and Dick is the fanboy that sees nothing wrong. but well said sir. my wavelength. ETHICS !

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