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Old 03-11-2008, 05:37 AM
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Time to close this Thread me thinks
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:53 AM
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Well I'm sorry LAZ, but Bearcat is right. Re-read your opening post, sit down and ask yourself could you have expected any response at all from 1C?


Trust me, developers will deliberately ignore a thread like this.

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Old 03-11-2008, 07:42 AM
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Well... Bearcat says what has been said and I'm with him.

I started MS CFS 1 & EAW, then left and plays another games (FPS, RPG etc.)
Then bought CFS 3 and spent time with it.

Then bought IL-2 and that's way I am. Now have IL-2, IL-2:FB, AEP, PF & IL-2 Sturmovik 1946. When said that hunger grows when eat - that's right.

I don't have count how much money has gone with this sim - new rig and components, joysticks and other stuff, TrackIR, books and DVD:s.

And I'm waiting too BoB:Sow but don't whine
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:19 PM
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Bearcat -tell someone who cares. Going on in a rude manner because you don't agree with me is unnecessary, it will get you nowhere.
Everyone has the right to express their opinion without being attacked and called names. IL2 is tired and error ridden and is now open to hacked f/ms. Bring on SoW, the sooner the better.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:47 PM
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I don't think we are owed anything, but it's simply good business practice to keep your customers in the loop. It's one thing to work on a new project, then present it finished as fait accompli, but once you've announced it and shown pictures/vids to keep the faithful interested, it only makes sense to continue with the odd report on progress. Doesn't need to be great detail, though some will crow for that. Just a "We've reached our February milestone, release still looking like Q4." That sort of thing.

A little bit goes a long way.

YMMV.

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Old 03-11-2008, 08:07 PM
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Well I'm sorry LAZ, but Bearcat is right. Re-read your opening post, sit down and ask yourself could you have expected any response at all from 1C?


Trust me, developers will deliberately ignore a thread like this.
Well, gee wiz Codex, along with your un-needed opinion, you too have chosen to post here and completely waste your time in an attempt correct my "thinking". My God, do any of you think that this thread would have come this far if you all would have shut your opinionated, horn honking, pie holes and left me to myself? If you would have done that, I would have been left to stew by myself and maybe a few that agreed. 1C needs NONE of you to defend them and could care less when you do......neither do I

By the way......I went and read my original post as you suggested......ummmm it looks a post from a guy who was already fed up with being ignored. Now you go away too.

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Old 03-11-2008, 08:52 PM
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If you would have done that, I would have been left to stew by myself ....
And there is YOUR mistake. If you would have ignored their opinions, why shouldn't you be able to ignore other peoples opinions here? Why don't you just restate your question or leave the topic, since you knew from the beginning that Oleg wouldn't come here to hold your hand no matter how rude you get.

So what is your point anyway? Just causing a storm in a fishbowl? You certainly failed even that.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:01 AM
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Bearcat,
You just blew out a lot of blather and only contributed to what the rest of the circus has already commented on. I don't need the great defenders of the 1C cause, so please remove your cape and goggles. I have never asked for weekly updates.....I've never asked for bi-weekly updates...hell, I've never asked more than one question....and I've only posted two threads! Looking back, you couldn't be more wrong about me. That being said, I think your leotards are a bit tight. So step off unless you have something new to say. I have been spanked and prodded be every carnival act here, you adding your act to the ring is fruitless. I'm still looking for a simple answer...It's all I've ever wanted. I've never complained about the game or FM's, or maps....I have only, ever, asked one simple question, and would have accepted even a guestimate. Anything is better than dead silence. Now go away.
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Stop acting like George Bush and tell us something.....ANYTHING.
We are the people who are going to give you OUR MONEY....REMEMBER?!
you know.......that stuff you use to buy your family's food with?
I suppose your also going to leave us to assume that 4.09 is completely dead too?
I know that most of the people you deal with in hear in here are thread hi-jacking carnival acts, but we are ALL future customers.
We don't want any more PICTURES, or VIDEOS.....we want to hear FROM YOU!!! Maybe a hopeful or forecasted release date or, are your at a dead stop?
Is 4.09 dead? Gives us SOMETHING, guys!!
Look man... even with the best of intentions... what kind of response did you expect? I mean really? Then in your firast post you start with the carnival acts bit .. and I just don't get the Bush bit at all... Maybe it's just too deep for me to understand...

In any case... I have no opinion about YOU either way.. it is your post that I had issues with and responded to.


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Bearcat -tell someone who cares. Going on in a rude manner because you don't agree with me is unnecessary, it will get you nowhere.
Everyone has the right to express their opinion without being attacked and called names. IL2 is tired and error ridden and is now open to hacked f/ms. Bring on SoW, the sooner the better.
Rude? I thought I was pretty thorough on why IL2 wasn't left a mess by Maddox.. as you said .. and frankly yes you are entitled to your opinions .. but I can't understand even on other boards why people come and vent what just is not the case... a mess? Give me a break. The sim has issues.. yes this 10 year old sim engine has issues... ya think... but I just don't see the thing as an incomplete mess.. sorry..
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:26 AM
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IL2 is a mess. IL2 is trying to do what it was never designed to do. It was obsolete long ago. SoW engine is long overdue to replace the IL2 engine. You have your opinion and I have mine, live with that - you have no other choice.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:46 AM
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What I do not understand with these sorts of opinions: If somebody doesn't like that game at all, why don't they just leave it? Nobody forces people to play IL2!
And posting comments on some peoples frustration with the game surely doesn't help anybody and it even less will speed up the process of finishing a sequel.

Don't get me wrong, I'm really, really glad most of us live in a democracy, which gives everybody the right to have his own opinion, but I am also glad that in democracy this right ends, when it does offend and deminish the rights of other people.
So, while having an opinion and stating it is perfectly democratic, writing it on your banner, marching through a bunch of dedicated fans and flaming them for it, is not.

Some people should bear that little difference in mind, when stating complains about democracy and rights for free will.
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