CoD--Becoming a Masterpiece

[robtek]

Jester, everybody has the right to complain, no one disputes that!
It is only when the same persons complain again and again and again......
You get my drift?

[jibo]

Originally Posted by Opitz

As the customers they have right to complain AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, till their complain is not resolved.
You get my drift?

yes but you have to understand that computer programming takes much longer than changing your diapers

[Oktoberfest]

Originally Posted by nodlew

Really? I didn't know that. Doesn't change anything for me, I'm not talking about Oleg, I'm talking about CoD. Anyway, you sound like an asshole too, so why don't you join Badger and the two of you can pool your lubes and help each other in the delicate head-anus insertion process? Make a night of it.

http://blogs.vizerra.com/vizerra_en/...interview.html

Funny that moderators leaves this kind of posts when other get deleted when the opinion is going the other way.

Anyway, I'm happy to be an asshole aware that he nearly got fucked by 1C and could avoid it.

BTW, the lube was for blind believers like you. But I guess you're so used to get fucked that you don't need it anymore.

[Blackdog_kt]

RoF released in much worse of a train-wreck state with only 4 flyable aircraft and a bunch of limitations by design plus equally frustrating hardware/optimization issues and two years on, there's people that swear by it.

Ditto for DCS A-10, whose developers were smart enough to say "you are not buying the final version, you just get access to the open beta because you pre-ordered".

In fact this is the only thing 1C should have done, call this an open beta and make it available to people who pre-order. They would still get a lot of funds because we're impatient and we'd like to try it out, we would still be flying it in it's current incomplete state and having loads of fun with the new features when it works as advertised, we'd still be submitting bug reports left and right and building a community-driven knowledge base, etc.

The only thing that would change is that the bitching would be less or even non-existent, because people would actually feel privileged to play the current buggy release if they were told that "you are not a buyer, you are a dedicated fan getting an advance preview thanks to your preorder and a beta tester that will helps us perfect this".
See, this is how gamers are, they like their status symbols enough that you could serve them almost anything and they would accept it, as long as you can make them think they are somehow in advance of the rest of pack.

[nearmiss]

To you Naysayers and whiners.

We've read all the speculations and attacks on the developers.

Nothing you are saying makes a whit of difference. It doesn't matter whether you think you are right or not, or even entitled to say all kinds of bad things.

The developers are working 24/7 to produce a most excellent ww2 air combat simulation game. There is nothing more any of us could ask for, whether it shoulda or coulda makes absolutely no difference.

Straight talk... There is no one currently developing any WW2 air combat flight simulation genre of game for the PC. You, I and the rest of our enthusiastic membership have absolutely no choice for anything better than we have with anyone else. Every WW2 air combat simulation game for the PC is over 8 years old, and there is only one that meets the needs of our users... IL2. Without a BOB COD there is nothing, and there will be nothing for a very long time without the BOB COD.

This is the developers choice of forums, but when all the whiners congregate and keep running their mouths it won't be long until news will be very slow forthcoming.

Oleg has distanced himself from this crowd, but he hasn't gone completely away. Regardless, of what some may say. WE ARE INFORMED REGULARLY BY LUTHIER.

I say shut up with the negative talk. Either find something positive or constructive to post about or move on to another forums where you can join other whiners and complainers in their chorus of hateful speech.

We, moderators have received many reports from members to ban the members that persist in whining and complaining.

Everyone is tired of it.

[JG52Krupi]

@nearmiss
We really need a clapping simley for this forum, well said.

[Silverback]

We are the bata testers. So stop your bitchen and get back to work.

[David Hayward]

Bye Opitz!

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Clap clap clap! What a innovative way to talk to the Maddox Games tricked customers! I just LOVE it... Just excellent... So we should just shut up or leave, right? So next time don't count with us again, all right?... I would rather play old Red Baron sim instead of buying anything from Maddox Games EVER AGAIN.

I hope your future customer base of 500 people world wide will make you happy.

Btw.. Your response is just the most arrogant post I have ever red on any game's official forum... You should be ashamed of yourself... What a sad end of the official IL2 community...

What a display of delusion! ROFL
Do you really think the few whiners make the majority??
They are loud and the same few post very often, that doesn't make them many.

[nodlew]

I hope your future customer base of 500 people world wide will make you happy.

You can't be serious? Even if Maddox games were to fold this afternoon, and all official support of Cliffs of Dover were to cease immediately, dozens, hundreds of amateur and semi-professional programmers would take up finishing this game On Their Own. There would be an instant call for the SDK, programming tools...

And whatever their success, or failure, hundreds of people, all flight-sim enthusiasts everywhere, would continue to work on and play this game for years, decades to come. You know why? Because, whatever its current bugs, there is nothing even in the same ballpark as this game. And there is no other company out there with the knowledge, the inclination, or the dedication to even attempt to produce one. Ever.

In fact, games like CoD are not made anymore. They don't exist. The profit margins are not high enough. They are too hard. The buying power of the Plane Nerd set is not potent enough to justify the effort involved. Ask the guys at TankSim.com how things are going in the Armored Warfare sim niche. And tanks are dirt simple to simulate compared to planes.

No, you are very wrong. Whether the folks at Maddox choose to kiss your ass or not, this game is by default the Name of the Game in WWII flight sims for the next decade. Anyone and everyone with a boner for WWII flight sims will be playing this game. And although a few may drop by the wayside, feel free to do so yourself, more will take up the game to compensate the grievous (snark) loss of your participation.

No, I am with those who choose to support Maddox games. I don't see anyone else producing anything comparable in the genre, and I predict that I won't see anyone else. I happen to love WWII, and I like simulations. I discovered flight simulation with Il-2 (and Jane's WWII Fighters--Jane's doesn't make flight sims anymore), I was always a tank sim guy before that (but they don't make tank sims anymore)*.

As I said at the beginning of this thread--I was angry about not being able to play the game, but I have witnessed the efforts of the Devs to fix those problems and I am mollified.

What the hell. All games these days are released with a bunch of bugs and problems. The classic games mature, and become refined. That's the way it works. What separates the companies that deserve our support from those that don't is their demonstration of their willingness to address these issues and perfect the game.

*Yeah, I know there's the new one with the T-62 and the M-60. I will definitely check it out.