I would like one question,why is not included in this part of the E4 Messer? - Page 5

41Sqn_Banks · #41 02-27-2011, 10:46 AM

Maybe the mineshells are selectable as a belting option. I know, the name of the Bf 109 would not be historically 100% correct in this case.

The don't give so much about the names anyway. Just look at the Spitfire names, the "a" in "Mk. Ia" was added to all machine gun armed "Mk. I" when the canon armed "Mk. Ib" came in service. So having a "Mk. I" and a "Mk. Ia" doesn't make much sense as they are the same subversion.

JG53Frankyboy · #42 02-27-2011, 11:11 AM

Main difference between these two spitfires will be the propellee i guess...

Biggs · #43 02-27-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Voyager

I suspect one of the Spitfire Mk I versions is the version that only had 4 mg, and the other is the one with the full 8 gun wing.
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sorry but you're dead wrong. There was no such thing as a 4 mg spitfire.

As Banks put it the "a" was only put in the name to delineate the difference in sub division of a mark.

so essentially Mk.I = Mk.Ia .... Oleg and crew got some explaining to do.

and on the same issue... what exactly is a bf109E-B, as its listed in the flyables, I've never heard of that one before...

it seems like they are a bit confused by the names of the different variants.
The mkI was still called "mkI" even when it went from 2 bladed to 2-pitch 3 bladed to CSP 3-bladed.

If anything they would be more accurate in calling them "mkI early" or "mkI late"

Daniël · #44 02-27-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggs

and on the same issue... what exactly is a bf109E-B, as its listed in the flyables, I've never heard of that one before...

Maybe like "Bf 109 E-3B, E-4B" type?. A JaBo (Jagdbomber, fighter-bomber) version, I think.

Sven · #45 02-27-2011, 03:05 PM

since we're talking about Messerschmitts

, I have a question about the E3. In IL2 'modded' we have the E3 with an optional nosecannon, was it commonly available for pilots in the BoB and what did pilots think about it?

csThor · #46 02-27-2011, 04:13 PM

A cannon between the cylinder hubs of an Emil is plain and utter bullsh*t! The Emil did have its main oil tank where the breech of such a weapon would have been so there is no technical possibility of an ordinary Emil having a centerline weapon. This is a fairy tale from the earliest days of research on the Bf 109 and continues to live on through lazy authors who copy from earlier works rather than research details on their own. There may have been one or two pre-series prototypes being tested with a centerline MG FF, but I'm rather sceptical about this. These "Bf 109 E-2" sound too much like one of these urban myths ...

Sven · #47 02-27-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor

A cannon between the cylinder hubs of an Emil is plain and utter bullsh*t! The Emil did have its main oil tank where the breech of such a weapon would have been so there is no technical possibility of an ordinary Emil having a centerline weapon. This is a fairy tale from the earliest days of research on the Bf 109 and continues to live on through lazy authors who copy from earlier works rather than research details on their own. There may have been one or two pre-series prototypes being tested with a centerline MG FF, but I'm rather sceptical about this. These "Bf 109 E-2" sound too much like one of these urban myths ...

Thank you for your clear answer!

WTE_Galway · #48 02-27-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven

since we're talking about Messerschmitts

, I have a question about the E3. In IL2 'modded' we have the E3 with an optional nosecannon, was it commonly available for pilots in the BoB and what did pilots think about it?

Its imaginary aircraft like this that is the main reason I have never used the mods.

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SO what is the difference between say , an E4 and say... and F4?

kinda like the difference between a Volkswagen and a 911 Porsche

... among other things the 109F's actually DID have a nose cannon.