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Old 09-14-2009, 10:51 PM
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Good hunting comrades. Me and my Yak-3 will be waiting below to pick off the Jerry's that try to get on your six
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:55 PM
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Hey thanks for the tips Goat, I'm ok at sim, but I could use a bit of practice. The only thing is the I-153 doesn't have a cockpit. *sniff sniff*

I'm assuming the po-2 is also lacking? I haven't unlocked it yet, but I'm really looking forward to it. I would be looking forward more if it had a cockpit.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:03 PM
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Matt, you are correct, the P02 is also lacking a cockpit

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Old 09-14-2009, 11:09 PM
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Unfortunately there are never any Sim games on the PS3 or I would use your guide like a bible. Everyone plays arcade..
um i only play simulation, so does edal86, varcus2, maninovka, wolfsalt, partizan, cpl-mowatt, mage_016, yopgruf, wh1tefoot, reaper1526, negos, madmel69, skeekatze, betaswitch, coxidian, axe99, mantini, whatsABlacksheep, DasSchmidt, cessna17216, Nw780, Roberts333, QBlackDeathQ, and many new players jumping over from realistic. I run games around 3pm-8pm eastern time, so if you want to get into a game come and join us
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:13 PM
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Matt, you are correct, the P02 is also lacking a cockpit

-Matt
arghh I thought so. I've really taken to the bi planes and it's a pity I won't be able to properly fly them in sim.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:58 PM
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Perhaps we'll be surprised in the DLC and get cockpits for the rest of the aircracft
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:22 AM
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Goat, forgot a tip - fly the La-7.

1. best cockpit by far
2. top speed - wtf? The thing is fast
3. pretty good guns - probably only second to the mk108 in the k-4 in ability to tear planes to shreds
4. turn radius - crazy turner
5. you can run engine on WEP forever

Not sure how it compares to yak-3 in turn - no one seems to be flying yak3 much.

You should unlock the k-4, I'm swearing off the la-7 until I get the K-4, gotta have this plane for tearing fighters and bombers to shreds.

Also, sim mode needs to have the map modified - should go to large grid system to show general location of enemies - not exact location, kinda screws up BnZ for planes like 109 and p51
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:38 AM
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True. The planes that can hold up pretty well in a dogfight are the Yak - 3, La - 7, Spitfire Mk VI, and the mk XVI, and the BF 109 K 4.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:57 AM
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Yah, while I like the slightly increased realism of sim and the fact you have to manually search and find your target, it is still just a matter of having your radar in an awkward place: your map. It feels really tacky and ruins the whole thrill of frantically searching for your target; just check your radar and you know which direction he is at. Really very little difference from realistic mode IMO. The only reason I REALLY like sim is the full zoom mapped to left trigger but thankfully this will not be an issue with the update anymore. If they make a clever way to be able to at least locate the general area of your enemy without making the map a functional radar I would see some point to playing sim. I also think that sim should be locked to cockpit view (not virtual cockpit). Obviously this would be a bit broken with the lack of cockpit art though.

I thought I had heard that you could have the option to lock the players views into cockpit as host, apparently I heard wrong.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:28 AM
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Yah, while I like the slightly increased realism of sim and the fact you have to manually search and find your target, it is still just a matter of having your radar in an awkward place: your map. It feels really tacky and ruins the whole thrill of frantically searching for your target; just check your radar and you know which direction he is at. Really very little difference from realistic mode IMO. The only reason I REALLY like sim is the full zoom mapped to left trigger but thankfully this will not be an issue with the update anymore. If they make a clever way to be able to at least locate the general area of your enemy without making the map a functional radar I would see some point to playing sim. I also think that sim should be locked to cockpit view (not virtual cockpit). Obviously this would be a bit broken with the lack of cockpit art though.

I thought I had heard that you could have the option to lock the players views into cockpit as host, apparently I heard wrong.
The map is a tad hokey I will admit. But it seems like a necessary evil from my point of view. A lot of the maps are just too large to easily identify your target visually. So it seems like a lot of matches would end up people running around the map lost and a dogfight would just be a chance encounter. As realistic as that may be, it just doesn't sound fun to me.

The virtual cockpit is necessary because as of this point... The players would only be able to fly a dozen or so aircraft. So that's out the window.

I think the addition of flaps and trim make a HUGE difference from realistic. And the whole targeting stuff makes realistic a completely different game from simulation. Also, not having the radar in your face makes the game completely different also.

Not to mention that there isn't a big red warning on the screen for almost every action you take. And the fact that your plane will fly straight and level in realistic no matter the conditions unless you hit a complete stall.

I'm not downing on realistic. If that's what you like to play then you should play it. I just don't think it's fair to marginalize simulation mode because of your reasoning.
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