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Old 12-23-2008, 03:24 AM
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I've been playing this game
This is in no way an attack on you but exactly how long have you been playing this sim? You sound as if you just started, again not an attack but many people that just start have similar complaints.

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if the planes are balanced, the Fw190 is the best airplane
I hope I am reading this correct but even if everything that you are saying is true its still a pretty general statement. Under what conditions, alt, speed, tactics used ect ect? As IceFire as said in his first post this sim is not perfect and no one will acknowledge that but by and large it's still pretty accuacte give or take.

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Old 12-23-2008, 10:03 AM
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Well YES I know that, and geez, I was just tring to use normal on-line language!!!
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I think the English in this thread isn't accurately modelled. I think properly used it's better than many other European languages but it does depend on the circumstances and the pilot. It's a perfect language with absolutely no flaws so it only can ever be wrong if not flown correctly.

I don't know what my English Mistress would have thought of the English in this thread. I mean the woman who taught me english not the english woman who was my mistress. Hmmm... better adjust the trim.....

God I must be bored........ waiting for SOW............

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Old 12-23-2008, 11:58 AM
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This is in no way an attack on you but exactly how long have you been playing this sim? You sound as if you just started, again not an attack but many people that just start have similar complaints.



I hope I am reading this correct but even if everything that you are saying is true its still a pretty general statement. Under what conditions, alt, speed, tactics used ect ect? As IceFire as said in his first post this sim is not perfect and no one will acknowledge that but by and large it's still pretty accuacte give or take.

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Im flying this game for 3 years, and i know all about that sim, tactics, in especial at mi focke wulf 190, the advantage on this plane are not considerated in the game like aceleration, climbing (the FW190 A6 climbs like a spitfire IX, Fw190 A8 climbs better tha mustang and thuntherbolt, FW190d9 1945 climbs like a spitfire XIV, this is a historical factor), in the game this is not represented
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:15 PM
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Im flying this game for 3 years, and i know all about that sim, tactics, in especial at mi focke wulf 190, the advantage on this plane are not considerated in the game like aceleration, climbing (the FW190 A6 climbs like a spitfire IX, Fw190 A8 climbs better tha mustang and thuntherbolt, FW190d9 1945 climbs like a spitfire XIV, this is a historical factor), in the game this is not represented
And the charts and information proving that for instance the FW190D-9 climbs with a Spitfire XIV are where?
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:52 AM
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Fw190 A8 climbs better tha mustang and thuntherbolt, , this is a historical factor), in the game this is not represented
I'm fairly certain that in the game the P51 and the P47 have their historical rather mediocre initial rates of climb modeled pretty accurately.

Seems to me you are making the basic mistake of equating your getting owned online by these types to incorrect modeling of whatever you are flying, rather than being honest about the fact that you are a poor judge of your opponent's energy state.

But I've only been playing the sim for seven years, what do I know?

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Old 12-24-2008, 05:33 AM
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Yet another useless thread from a Luftwhinner...

(sorry for my "diplomacy", but he doesn´t deserve more than that)
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Old 12-24-2008, 09:52 AM
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Yet another useless thread from a Luftwhinner...
Make it useful for HIM then.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:55 AM
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Yet another useless thread from a Luftwhinner...

(sorry for my "diplomacy", but he doesn´t deserve more than that)
well I love the germans planes becouse this conutry bougth tho most letal fighters
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:29 PM
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I hate the erroneus data....... Why oleg put the performances so balanced avoiding the reality? Why they do that, your game is good, but with such data, not worth purchase the game, that is one of the reasons, because I regret having bought, what if I had bought real data, yesterday we played with some friends, one of They were in bf109 g2 and I in a fw190-D9, fighting to 6000 meters, the bf109 g2 was clearly faster than my fw 190 d9. Why it happens?, if you wonder if it was in a server with mods this is false, as well as tested with a TA and the same thing happened. be will avalaible some patch for correct that?, My English suck I know.
Couple of observations:

6000m. Are you sure that the modeling of high altitude, not the aircraft, is the issue?

You seem to assume that both aircraft were being flown correctly

Also, have you ever considered that any simulation has limitations? Buying "real data" seems to be your solution. Where is this "real data" warehouse? It is very easy to point out failings in anything, the challenge is to find the faults and the ways to correct them, or different approaches to solve the problems. You do neither. You complain, proclaim things as wrong as if you know everything and can decide what's right and wrong, and then offer nothing but a request for a fix

To create a 'perfect' simulation of anything, first a "perfect" simulation of the real world needs to be modeled. Only then can a proper simulation of anything be produced. This simulation, despite it's improvements, is eight years old. The developer cannot be expected to provide support and improvements to the product forever. Do you understand that? The developer has ceased support of this simulation because they are developing a better one. The intention is to provide a more perfect simulation- but not by improving this one. You cannot just 'buy better data', plug it into the sim, and make the sim better.

Your complaints may be very valid, but you are literally years late in voicing them
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:34 PM
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But I've only been playing the sim for seven years, what do I know?
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