SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Verhängnis]

Should we ban kitchen knives too?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Verhängnis

Should we ban kitchen knives too?

they actually tried here in the UK..

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Verhängnis

Should we ban kitchen knives too?

Can you climb up a bell tower with a kitchen knife and kill 47 people at the University of Texas?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

ok,which is it Zorin?

1) you are a homo
2) you are a female
3) you are alien poeple visiting from another planet

cuz, that statement...like a "kick me" sign on your back.

This forum sure has seen many uneducated and prejudiced posts, but this passes the line with a big margin. You really should apologize for a post like this.

[rhinomonkey]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Well Canada is not like the US, and of course it's all about the people. Firearms per se are just a tool, they don't kill anyone if they're left untouched.

Agreed


once again, open a history book, or look for history of gun control in regimes..

Well history tells us that brutal regimes tend not to get overthrown by an armed population. What usually defeats a brutal regime is the military turning against it or a forign power stepping in. I don't think that an armed population on it's own would have that much of a chance against a military on it's own and it would lead to an entrenched drawn out bloody civil war. I also think that it's so unlikely that the population of a modern western democracy would have to defend it's self against it's own millitary, that on it's own its a weak excuse for gun ownership

it's not about need, it's about freedom to own a gun.

You are only free to do what your governments sets out in Law. Ultimate freedom is a misnomer. You are not completely free.
The simple fact is that people use guns to kill other people. the US has a terrible problem with gun murder it would be a responsible act by the governmnet to restrict access to guns. However the USA is a democracy and as such any act needs to be sactioned by the people, so, as long is there isn't the will to restrict guns it wont happen. This is why i couldn't lie in the USA for the same reasons i would not live in Somallia or Afghanistan. Lots of gun death and no restrictions on weapons.

[nearmiss]

The man in Colorado had 30 grenades in his apartment rigged with gasoline to cause further disater, if his apartment was entered.

If that guy didn't have access to a gun... what do you think he would have been able to do with 30 grenades in a dark theatre? He would have killed and maimed 100s more. If every grenade killed 8 people the count would have been 240 dead. That would be a reasonable assumption for a densely crowded theatre.

He could have stood off in a dark corner and tossed grenades into the crowd. It would have taken too long for people to recognize what was happening or who was doing it. Average Americans have never experienced that kind of terror attack.

Take away the guns and the killers will find a way...especially if they are unrestrained by any reprisal power from their victims.

Don't even think it's the cops driving the neighborhood that are going to stop anything. What took the cops so long to stop the Columbine and Aurora massacre..oops they didn't stop them. They waited for the shooting to stop. The cops were in protect thyself mode. The cops waited for the shooting to stop...then they did their number one specialty of herding the sheeple.

There are numerous criminal combative situations that take place all the time and the criminals are subdued by some average citizen with a gun. Those crimes prevented are reported locally, but national media doesn't report them.

[Verhängnis]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Can you climb up a bell tower with a kitchen knife and kill 47 people at the University of Texas?

The Rwandans managed nearly a million people with machetes, which is like a kitchen knife, slightly bigger I guess... So I guess you could...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by rhinomonkey

The simple fact is that people use guns to kill other people.

and that sums up the ignorance of many on the topic.

Don't you really think it's ridiculous to express such broad statements on a topic you obviously know nothing about?

[CaptainDoggles]

Aw, how cute, the pro-gun people are ignoring the statistics.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=29

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

The man in Colorado had 30 grenades in his apartment rigged with gasoline to cause further disater, if his apartment was entered.

If that guy didn't have access to a gun... what do you think he would have been able to do with 30 grenades in a dark theatre? He would have killed and maimed 100s more. If every grenade killed 8 people the count would have been 240 dead. That would be a reasonable assumption for a densely crowded theatre.

He could have stood off in a dark corner and tossed grenades into the crowd. It would have taken too long for people to recognize what was happening or who was doing it. Average Americans have never experienced that kind of terror attack.

Take away the guns and the killers will find a way...especially if they are unrestrained by any reprisal power from their victims.

Don't even think it's the cops driving the neighborhood that are going to stop anything. What took the cops so long to stop the Columbine and Aurora massacre..oops they didn't stop them. They waited for the shooting to stop. The cops were in protect thyself mode. The cops waited for the shooting to stop...then they did their number one specialty of herding the sheeple.

There are numerous criminal combative situations that take place all the time and the criminals are subdued by some average citizen with a gun. Those crimes prevented are reported locally, but national media doesn't report them.

+ 100.

That idiot could have killed a lot more had he actually used some brains: if you really want to go on a shooting spree and really kill you'd need an AK and hollow points, not a 5.56 and FMJ ammo.
To me this is the sign of an alienated individual who grew up playing with FPS and wanting to be really behind a rifle and feel the thrill to shoot people. He didn't probably care about killing as many as possible, he probably only wanted to get his twisted fantasies to the real world, and as Nearmiss said, had he not readily available guns he could have used any other mean.

A killer is a killer, a gun is only a tool of choice.