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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-11-2012, 11:32 AM
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Tbh I have neverheard of adding ram ruining an overclock seems foolish to me, have a word with tree or Phat they seem to be this forums resident supercomputer builders.
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PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:47 AM
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PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.
No I got it from CCL computers. Would you say 4 gig ram isn't enough because I am told it is enough for all games, but I am willing to listen to any advice.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:54 AM
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I have 4 GB's it works fine for me. My next system will have 8 though. Ram is cheap now, so I would recommend at least 2 x 4GB.
With the desastersoft addon I think they are recommending 12 GB!
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:58 AM
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I think 6gb is enough 8gb is perfect anymore is only useful ATM if you are doing video editing etc.
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Can I just say that is where you are completely wrong! This overclock is done by proper Techs and was sold to me ready overclocked by a well established firm. I was told that if I add more then 4 gig of Ram that I would lose the overclock and it's funny how I have never had a freeze or shut down which would indicate it had been badly overclocked. I have read all about Hyper threading since discovering about it and now I know it's better to have it switched off. Well in my case it must be because it's vastly improved my FPS and my cores are all at low temps because I monitor them with with core Temp. Not one core is above 46c. So where again is this overclock done badly?

Edit: I have noticed that turning TM support back on I still get FPS so this is all to do with the Hyperthreading been disabled.
That "proper tech" doesn't know what he is talkin about.

First you have 3 channel memory controler,and you have 4 GB of RAM.
Is it 2x2 GB or 4x1 GB ? In any case you are losing something, more in the first case , and for second case I'm not shure, haven't played with i7.
But in any case proper setup for this platform is 3x(what you can afford) GB of RAM.

Second. It is true when you overclock i7 930 you have to raise your base clock, and that will raise RAM frequency also, but you have thing called memory divider ( if it is at least midrange board) in your BIOS settings.

Overclock is not bad by the way.

I'm glad that you solved the problem.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:13 PM
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That "proper tech" doesn't know what he is talkin about.

First you have 3 channel memory controler,and you have 4 GB of RAM.
Is it 2x2 GB or 4x1 GB ? In any case you are losing something, more in the first case , and for second case I'm not shure, haven't played with i7.
But in any case proper setup for this platform is 3x(what you can afford) GB of RAM.

Second. It is true when you overclock i7 930 you have to raise your base clock, and that will raise RAM frequency also, but you have thing called memory divider ( if it is at least midrange board) in your BIOS settings.

Overclock is not bad by the way.
I stand corrected because I have just run Dxdiag and found that I do have 6 gig of Ram. I have 3x2 sticks so except my apologies for the slight misunderstanding.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:18 PM
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Oops missed that! Thats why its good to put your system specs in your sig!
3x2GB should be OK, next upgrade would be 3x4GB. You would be looking at around £90 to double your ram to 12Gb currently.

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Old 05-11-2012, 12:25 PM
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@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know...

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers.

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Old 05-11-2012, 12:37 PM
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@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know...

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers.
I already stated I made a mistake with the Ram! I have 6 gig and will put my spec in sig in future. This card is quicker then your card for the time been and in 2 years time I will buy another with more Vram. I could have bought a Palit Geforce with 4gig but I decided on this for it's overclock. I am sure this card will last me longer then a year lol.
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