Community Preference Initiative

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by BH_woodstock

think about this,what does il2 1946 have that Cliffs of Dover dont??A meeting place!!!A community where pilots can talk, chat, and compare fps,settings,etc..If i dont see pilots in servers just like most are saying here.i either play single player or join the most populated one i can find and usually will fly for a bit, get bored and move on to another game.CloD does NOT have a meeting place!!
Il2 would NOT have survived 10 years without it.1st we had UBI lobby wich was an ok starting point for muiltyplayer experience.Then one day I found Hyperlobby and never looked back, not even once.In my opinion and this is "just" my opinion with all the support that HL has with the community CloD would be far more advanced and fixed and a lot more players if everyone would use a lobby or meeting place such as HL.Am i trying to endorse Hyperlobby? Yes i am.Lets give credit where it is due.Il2 would not have survived this long with out a community.Cliffs of Dover NEVER should have went with "Steam"...It "should" have went to the place where it belongs with a more dedicated community.And i am NOT just saying this because of myself being part of HL staff. "CloD" should have had hyperlobby on the box cover NOT steam.What it all comes down to is that CloD needs more than just a "server" list.it needs friends a common meeting ground, a place to thrive!


can i get an Amen??

BH_woodstock
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I think possibly "Steam" was the choice, so as to help keep the game clean/fair.

...I could be wrong

[Dr str@nglove]

i have an idea,would it be possible to tigh in the radars with the mini map so you could see enemy and friendly icons on the map,including your own ac,this would at least give you a rough idea of where the action is,also if the radars were destroyed you would loose coverage for that particular area.This would also lead to a more tactical game imo,just wondered if any of the atag guys would know if this was possible via a script

[mxmadman]

The map icons for your own aircraft and friendly aircraft is already in game, no coding required. Its actually the exact reason I'm trying to promote this server

However, it doesn't show enemy aircraft, and there are no radar towers. If you think about it, showing enemy aircraft would end up badly because you could see exactly where the enemy is taking off and they'd never have a fighting chance to get speed or alt.

There's nothing wrong with it, but seeing enemy aircraft on the map is a little too far in my opinion, unless limited by range, and I'm not sure that's possible without coding, which is not something I'm capable of.

Edit: Just want to clarify, on you can see: friendly aircraft, your own aircraft, and Non-piloted enemy aircraft on the map (meaning planes that are objectives to be strafed, but will not be flown by ai or players)

You can also see friwendly and enemy aircraft information on screen in game. So if you see a 109, in fron of you, it will show in blue letter 109-e3, 2.2km.

You CANNOT see enemy aircraft (player or ai) on the map.

[von Brühl]

Lost my interest at "Let's start dogfighting..."

too much airquake now.

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by von Brühl

Lost my interest at "Let's start dogfighting..."

too much airquake now.

Do you always comment on things you didn't read and also don't interest you?.. seems pretty boring, but you are more than welcome to going back to, well, not dogfighting, if that's your choice.

[ATAG_Bliss]

I think this is a good initiative, but it sounds like it was started because you seemed to not find anyone in the server? Granted I have flown online for more hours than I care to admit, even with 10 people in the server I can find a dogfight in usually less than 10 minutes.

The biggest thing with a server like ours is studying the brief/map/objectives. That gives you a good idea of where you will meet the certain types of planes that are in the air. I always check the netstats just to see what's flying. If there's 7 blemmys in the air, there's a good bet that they will be skimming the water trying to bomb all the objectives. Same thing goes for 110's/88's etc. So knowing where the objectives are also gives you a good idea of where flight paths may occur.

The other thing, even though you may not want to, is turn your resolution down a notch. The graphics engine has many LOD problems. If you want to spot contacts easier, the best way is to lower your resolution to a "this doesn't look so bad" state.

As to your thread, I think it's bound to happen, you given some flak. Many people buy a flight sim this complex to try and get just a touch of the feeling a RL WWII pilot would have had it. If quick dogfights are your game, there are many other WWII sims out there that cater to that specific thing. I just don't think the type of popularity you're hoping for is going to happen, at the very least, until some of the major glaring issues of the sim get fixed and the more casual gamers start buying it.

But it never hurts to try!

[mxmadman]

@bliss I appreciate the concern, but no that's definitely not my only problem. I have little trouble finding the dots and most occasions, its keeping them in sight for a period of time that gets under my skin the most, especially during a fight.

Also, I doubt telling me to go back to another sim helps anyone. If you want to cut off your MP experience to the (obviously) larger demographic of sim pilots, then that's the route to take. As I stated in the OP, I normally do end up going to another sim.

Now I'm trying to do something to change the myth that only the most hardcore sim-nerds can enjoy clod. It has these settings already implemented for a reason, and these servers were created for the same reason.

Edit: ill just be blatently honest, I didn't post this for any help on the ATAG server, and I'm not looking for aband-aid to fix my poblem, because CLOD already has exactly what I'm looking for. I'm here to get the guys to join me.

Unfortunately the people who joined the server last night with me had no idea I made a post on the forums, they just joined because that's also what they want to do.

Chances are that a lot of the players thos post was intended for have already moved on to another game because people like you told them to. Or, like my enounters last night, they don't even bother with forums.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by mxmadman

@bliss I appreciate the concern, but no that's definitely not my only problem. I have little trouble finding the dots and most occasions, its keeping them in sight for a period of time that gets under my skin the most, especially during a fight.

Also, I doubt telling me to go back to another sim helps anyone. If you want to cut off your MP experience to the (obviously) larger demographic of sim pilots, then that's the route to take. As I stated in the OP, I normally do end up going to another sim.

Now I'm trying to do something to change the myth that only the most hardcore sim-nerds can enjoy clod. It has these settings already implemented for a reason, and these servers were created for the same reason.

What works for me is after taking my eyes off of the aircraft, I look where it should be when I look again to pick up on it. Kind of like shooting an arrow.

[mxmadman]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

What works for me is after taking my eyes off of the aircraft, I look where it should be when I look again to pick up on it. Kind of like shooting an arrow.

Hey Slip I just edited that post to add more that address' your post.

Again, I'm not trying to seem unappreciative, but I've already found the answer to what I seek, and its located under 'options'.

This way I can play the way I enjoy to play. Thankfully, many people agree with me in every other game in our genre, now I just have to get them to come out of the woodwork. The numbers do not lie.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by mxmadman

@bliss I appreciate the concern, but no that's definitely not my only problem. I have little trouble finding the dots and most occasions, its keeping them in sight for a period of time that gets under my skin the most, especially during a fight.

Also, I doubt telling me to go back to another sim helps anyone. If you want to cut off your MP experience to the (obviously) larger demographic of sim pilots, then that's the route to take. As I stated in the OP, I normally do end up going to another sim.

Now I'm trying to do something to change the myth that only the most hardcore sim-nerds can enjoy clod. It has these settings already implemented for a reason, and these servers were created for the same reason.

Edit: ill just be blatently honest, I didn't post this for any help on the ATAG server, and I'm not looking for aband-aid to fix my poblem, because CLOD already has exactly what I'm looking for. I'm here to get the guys to join me.

Unfortunately the people who joined the server last night with me had no idea I made a post on the forums, they just joined because that's also what they want to do.

Chances are that a lot of the players thos post was intended for have already moved on to another game because people like you told them to. Or, like my enounters last night, they don't even bother with forums.

I didn't say go back to and say fly another sim to jab at you, I simply stated there are other sims out there that cater to your style of play. Therefore those sims have a much huger population of people wanting to play with visual aids/relaxed settings.

If the OP had said that's how you enjoy playing the game instead of saying "I can't find anyone on ATAG" therefore I want to play with visual aids on, you didn't expect people those that have been playing online for a while to give you insight on how to find, spot, track targets?

I would suggest changing the thread to something along the lines of this is how I want to play the sim. Who else would like to join me? Throwing in excuses why, especially with the caveat that you can't find anyone on full switch servers, would only lead to those people like myself who have no problem spotting contacts at 25km away (server setting) on full switch servers trying to give you an insight to fix your problem.

Sorry for trying to help or give you a suggestion to a problem that many of us don't have.