More twin Engine flyables in IL-2 1946

[Furio]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

So these solid nosed B-25J variants were all field mods? I didnt know that.

This is a modern restoration, of unknown origin and accuracy. If correctly restored, this looks like a factory built “solid nose”, with external armour plate on cockpit sides, but lacking the four side-mounted guns and armoured windshield. You can see the armour plate just below side window.
If you browse online, you can easily find pictures of field modified B25. If the guns are 4 or 5, it’s a field mod. If the guns are 8, look for the overpainted transparent nose panels and a different nose contour, of a little less rounded shape. At least, this is AFAIK, but there’s probably more.
The interesting thing is that field mod could be simpler to model, being equally good for NG campaign or missions.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Furio

If you browse online, you can easily find pictures of field modified B25. If the guns are 4 or 5, it’s a field mod. If the guns are 8, look for the overpainted transparent nose panels and a different nose contour, of a little less rounded shape.

I wonder if it is possible to handle the various B-25 field mods as loadout options, rather than new models. That would simplify things.

Is it possible to add things like supplemental armor plates as loadout options?

[gaunt1]

I think it wouldnt be too hard to make a factory built "solid nosed" B-25J. Definitely better option than a reskinned "field mod". Armor plates around the cockpit, and additional guns will need to be modeled either way, so modifying the nose is really not too much.

I still think that besides more He-111 variants (YT2's mod, which is complete), the B-25 would be the easiest plane to add more variants.
B-25J with solid nose: Described above
B-25C: pilot's cockpit may need slight modifications. Upper turret->straight from B-25J. Bombardier's cockpit->straight from B-25J. Ventral turret->simple periscope view, like in Pe-2
B-25G: cockpit and gun positions from C
B-25H: cockpit and gun positions from J.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

I still think that besides more He-111 variants (YT2's mod, which is complete), the B-25 would be the easiest plane to add more variants.

There are some A-20 variants which would be easy to add to the game as well.

A-20C Soviet Lend-Lease - A-20C with Soviet guns and the UTK-1 turret from the IL-4.

Boston IIIa - A-20C with British instruments, equipment, guns & ordinance loadouts.

A-20G-1 - Use the A-20C as a base, but with the A-20G's nose, and with 2 20mm cannons and 2 .30 caliber MG replacing the standard A-20G forward armament. Use the engines of the A-20G. This variant was mostly used by the USSR.

A-20H - Identical to the late model A-20G but with uprated engines.

P-70A-1 - A-20C with solid nose and 4 20mm cannons. Remove the bombardier/nose gunner position, add radar, paint over the glazing on the nose and add cannon muzzles. Add flame dampers to the engine exhausts.

There were many other A-20 variants, many which served in the RAF - as bombers, attack aircraft, night intruders and night fighters.

[Sita]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

A-20C Soviet Lend-Lease - A-20C with Soviet guns and the UTK-1 turret from the IL-4.

most likely ...

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Sita

most likely ...

Good to hear.

It's likely that the Soviet A-20C just used USSR ordinance loadouts, since it doesn't appear that the US supplied bombs via Lend-Lease.

You could also name the Soviet-modified A-20C variant "A-20C USSR Boston" since A-20s in USSR service were called "Bostons" - after the shipment of Boston III bombers sent to the USSR by the British in 1941.

Another idea:

Soviet Lend-Lease A-20G-20-DO - Many A-20G in Soviet service had their Martin turrets replaced by UTK-1 turrets. Just swap turrets and just include Soviet ordinance loadouts.

The other A-20 variant that would be very easy to get into the game would be the A-20H. No modeling is needed, just a tweak to the FM to reflect the slightly more powerful engines.

If you wanted to get a bit fancier:

Soviet Lend-Lease A-20G-1: The Soviets got almost all of the 200 aircraft included in the first A-20G production bloc. Replace 2 .50 caliber nose MG with 20mm M2 cannon (possibly Soviet 20mm cannon). Rework nose slightly to show longer cannon barrels. Substitute the UTK-1 turret for the existing Martin turret. Use Soviet ordinance loadouts.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Sita

most likely ...

Great, thank you.

VVS applied many field mods to the Havoc. Browsing around is easy to find transparent panels applied to solid nose A20s, more windows behind the turret (for a navigator, as there is an astrodome), a rack for a torpedo on the left fuselage side, obliquely mounted cannons firing downward for strafing, heavy UB machine gun in the ventral hatch position, four men crew, radar antennae and the list goes on. One wonders why Russians used so much ingenuity and creativity on a single type. The best answer probably is: Because it was possible, as the A20-Boston was easily adaptable and tolerant of modifications.

I’m not requesting all these variants, of course.

[shelby]

more german planes like bf110 me210 me410 ju188 and the yt2's he111

[Fighterace]

What about some early P-38 versions???

[P-38L]

How about the Ju-52 with the possibility to carry other players as passenger. With that option this Flight Simulator will be the only one to have this advantage. And even jump with parachutes.

Please make the Sukhoi Su-2 flyable.

Thank you