Fantasy 'dream on' thread

[Soviet Ace]

Hmm...They could have added a MiG-3 for the hell of it, and could have also (rather than Korsun) put Leningrad in place for a map. Maybe a Fokker DXXI because I think they look cool and are interesting planes. They could have added at least some French fighers like the MS402 and D.520... under estimated fighters I tell ya!

For all the nations represented in BoP, here's one (or two) planes they could have added.

Italy: Fiat CR.42 or Fiat G.50

Germany: Ju-88 or Do-17

US: F4F Wildcat or P-38 (P-38s played more of a roll in Italy, than a P-51 did.)

UK: P-40 or Gloster Gladiator (It's really surprising for a WW2 Airplane game, to not have added MALTA which was nothing but an aerial combat zone.)

Russia: They could have added the LaGG-3 into BoP instead of the useless Po-2.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Hmm...They could have added a MiG-3 for the hell of it, and could have also (rather than Korsun) put Leningrad in place for a map. Maybe a Fokker DXXI because I think they look cool and are interesting planes. They could have added at least some French fighers like the MS402 and D.520... under estimated fighters I tell ya!

For all the nations represented in BoP, here's one (or two) planes they could have added.

Italy: Fiat CR.42 or Fiat G.50
Yeah i think this is a good choice

Germany: Ju-88 or Do-17
Again, a good choice, this is what i would choose

US: F4F Wildcat or P-38 (P-38s played more of a roll in Italy, than a P-51 did.)
I'd take the Corsair for this prob, use it as an escort fighter agianst an attack on the Tirpitz. The P38 is a good choice to. Would like Mitchell bomber though.

UK: P-40 or Gloster Gladiator (It's really surprising for a WW2 Airplane game, to not have added MALTA which was nothing but an aerial combat zone.)
A Hurricane with a Merlin sounding in game engine like the P51 and Spitfires have!! Or a Mossie or Lanc.

Russia: They could have added the LaGG-3 into BoP instead of the useless Po-2.
Not to fussed for these haha.

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[bobbysocks]

hmmm maybe a P 61 black widow (and the airforces equivelant) and a whole scenario built around night fighters....

[Balderz002]

Italy: Fiat CR.42 or Fiat G.50
- Would rather see a G.55 or Re.2005

Germany: Ju-88 or Do-17
- Both please!

US: F4F Wildcat or P-38 (P-38s played more of a roll in Italy, than a P-51 did.)
- P-38, as its the only US 8th AF escort fighter not in the game

UK: P-40 or Gloster Gladiator (It's really surprising for a WW2 Airplane game, to not have added MALTA which was nothing but an aerial combat zone.)
- P40 with shark nose would look cool. But I would like to see either a PR.XIX Spit, or equivalent Mossie for a Photo Recon mission. Could use the bomb aiming reticule for target aquisition, with no guns, would be a great mission.......

Russia: They could have added the LaGG-3 into BoP instead of the useless Po-2.
- Pe-2 would be mint!

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Balderz002

Italy: Fiat CR.42 or Fiat G.50
- Would rather see a G.55 or Re.2005

Germany: Ju-88 or Do-17
- Both please!

US: F4F Wildcat or P-38 (P-38s played more of a roll in Italy, than a P-51 did.)
- P-38, as its the only US 8th AF escort fighter not in the game

UK: P-40 or Gloster Gladiator (It's really surprising for a WW2 Airplane game, to not have added MALTA which was nothing but an aerial combat zone.)
- P40 with shark nose would look cool. But I would like to see either a PR.XIX Spit, or equivalent Mossie for a Photo Recon mission. Could use the bomb aiming reticule for target aquisition, with no guns, would be a great mission.......

Russia: They could have added the LaGG-3 into BoP instead of the useless Po-2.
- Pe-2 would be mint!

Yeah, a Fiat G.55 would be okay, but they weren't around during Malta. Fiat G.50s and CR.42s were though. And that's why they should have added Malta, because it was more of a air battle than Sicily or the Italian mainland ever was.

[Balderz002]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Yeah, a Fiat G.55 would be okay, but they weren't around during Malta. Fiat G.50s and CR.42s were though. And that's why they should have added Malta, because it was more of a air battle than Sicily or the Italian mainland ever was.

If we are going into historical accuracy, then they shouldve used a Mk.I Spitfire, not a cannon armed Mk.II for some of the BoB missions. They did have a few cannon armed Mk.II's, but out of the 900 odd Mk.II's produced, only around 170 were cannon armed. And the camo is wrong for them, it shouldve been brown/green top sides, not green/gray. I know why they used one though, just to keep it up with the 109E in the armament stakes.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Balderz002

If we are going into historical accuracy, then they shouldve used a Mk.I Spitfire, not a cannon armed Mk.II for some of the BoB missions. They did have a few cannon armed Mk.II's, but out of the 900 odd Mk.II's produced, only around 170 were cannon armed. And the camo is wrong for them, it shouldve been brown/green top sides, not green/gray. I know why they used one though, just to keep it up with the 109E in the armament stakes.

It wasnt for armament sake that they used the MkII, a prime example of this is the Hawker Hurricane, its armed with the .303's and if you've used it then you'll know how much damage it can do. So the MkI Spitfire would be similar (minus 2 guns).

This issue was addressed soon after the demo for IL2 was released, I do believe Anton stated that the reason they didnt use the MkI was because of resources etc. They could afford it.

Seemed an odd reason at the time. Still does. The topic for it is here on the forum somewhere.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Balderz002

If we are going into historical accuracy, then they shouldve used a Mk.I Spitfire, not a cannon armed Mk.II for some of the BoB missions. They did have a few cannon armed Mk.II's, but out of the 900 odd Mk.II's produced, only around 170 were cannon armed. And the camo is wrong for them, it shouldve been brown/green top sides, not green/gray. I know why they used one though, just to keep it up with the 109E in the armament stakes.

Yeah, like Foz said, it's been said and noted before. (Not sure you want to dig through all the stuff, but there's been plenty of things said about that and other planes.)

I just figured, that in a flight game like Il-2, you'd think to focus on the major air combat campaigns like Malta. (Plus, I love flying CR.42s and Fiats in '46. They're so fast and maneuverable. )

[Balderz002]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I just figured, that in a flight game like Il-2, you'd think to focus on the major air combat campaigns like Malta.

Which is why I was surprised there are no Do-17's or Ju-88's. - But then I was expecting alot of DLC for this game....... But lets not reopen that wound!

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Balderz002

Which is why I was surprised there are no Do-17's or Ju-88's. - But then I was expecting alot of DLC for this game....... But lets not reopen that wound!

Reopen? Its not healed yet

Gutted.