P-47s

[Fighterace]

G'day all, If my memory serves me correct was there an update to the P-47 cockpits and 3D models? If so what is the status of those.

Also is it possible to have the P-47M or P-47N for this game or is it going into NG restrictions.

Thanks

[gaunt1]

I think P-47M is unnecessary. It was a fairly unsuccessful, insignificant variant. We also have the P-47D without block number ingame, which more or less matches its performance.
On the other hand, adding a P-47N is a good idea, a really important aircraft, especially on the pacific.
In my opinion, the P-47C would be also a great to have.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

I think P-47M is unnecessary. It was a fairly unsuccessful, insignificant variant.

It was considered to be the "hotrod" model of the P-47, and was built in very small numbers to equip the 56th Fighter Squadron. It would be fun, but as you said, not necessary.

Originally Posted by gaunt1

On the other hand, adding a P-47N is a good idea, a really important aircraft, especially on the pacific. In my opinion, the P-47C would be also a great to have.

The P-47N didn't see that much action due to overwhelming US air superiority by the time it became operational, but did have the distinction of being the plane piloted by the last U.S. "Ace in a day" - 1LT Oscar Perdomo.

But, in a hypothetical "Japan 46" where the A bombs didn't work or were never used, and the US, UK and USSR invaded Japan, it would have been a major player, so it gets my vote for that reason.

As for the P-47C, remember that early blocks of "C" and "D" production aircraft were virtually indistinguishable from each other and in some cases only referred to production origin (Evansville, IN vs. Farmingdale, NY).

The exact model of the P-47C we should be asking for is either the P-47C-2 or P-47C-5, since these were the first operational long-range U.S. escort fighters, and were extremely important historically for that reason. IIRC, the external model of the P-47C-5 is close enough to the P-47D-10 that it could be created using just FM and loadout changes.

Of course, we don't have the maps to cover most of the terrain the P-47C-2 or -5 pilots fought over, but that's a different issue.

[Treetop64]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

Also is it possible to have the P-47M or P-47N for this game or is it going into NG restrictions.

Thanks

Considering that the P-47 was built by Republic and, in limited numbers, Curtiss, that is not likely...

As others have stated, the "M" variant was a souped-up "D" model built in very limited numbers, and wasn't terribly successful.

The "N" model, on the other hand, would be nice to have in-game. It would also be nice to have more maps that allow the operational range of the "N" model to be exploited, as well as that of other long-range aircraft.

[IceFire]

The P-47N I always thought was interesting... different shape to the wings, greater range, HVAR rockets, used in the late stages of the Pacific war.

The P-47M is interesting too although we pretty much already have it in the non-descript P-47D, 1944 which is meant to simulate a field mod/hot rodded P-47D-27. Pretty much bang on in performance.

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by IceFire

The P-47N I always thought was interesting... different shape to the wings, greater range, HVAR rockets, used in the late stages of the Pacific war.

The P-47M is interesting too although we pretty much already have it in the non-descript P-47D, 1944 which is meant to simulate a field mod/hot rodded P-47D-27. Pretty much bang on in performance.

Could you modify the 3D model of the non-descript P-47D by adding a dorsal fin fillet and add dive recover flaps and call it the P-47M??

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

Could you modify the 3D model of the non-descript P-47D by adding a dorsal fin fillet and add dive recover flaps and call it the P-47M??

I don't have the talent. Someone could.

[Fighterace]

Any new P-47s would be a great addition to this game