Hs 129 barely flyable

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by The_WOZ

I find the Hs-129 so much more enjoyable to fly than the IL-2 and a lot more stable at low speeds too.

The difference between a smart pilot and a "gamer".

The first thing the Gamer thinks of is to MOD the aircraft so it flies to his tastes, maybe a Japanese Zero would be a nice flight model for all the planes?

A real simmer though uses his brain, practices and thinks of a way to use what he is given to get the job done, just like the pilots had to in WWII.

In flying the HS-129 online I came to very similar tactics to those WOZ discovered and found it to be a fabulous tool for destroying armor.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

The difference between a smart pilot and a "gamer".

The first thing the Gamer thinks of is to MOD the aircraft so it flies to his tastes, maybe a Japanese Zero would be a nice flight model for all the planes?

A real simmer though uses his brain, practices and thinks of a way to use what he is given to get the job done, just like the pilots had to in WWII.

In flying the HS-129 online I came to very similar tactics to those WOZ discovered and found it to be a fabulous tool for destroying armor.

Then again a real pilot given the choice between a Hs129 and an Il2 might chose the Il - most of the important and vulnerable components encased in armor instead of just the pilot. And at least ingame the IL is a bit easier to fly IMHO -looking at the wingloading of both planes that's what I'd expect IRL too. Not saying the Hs can't be put to use (lots of ammo for a good armament and good inflight stabily), but just that it is no stellar performer -probably close to real world?

[Janosch]

A Hs-129 even with Bk 3.7 is a wonderful anti-tank plane... if there's no horrible turbulence at low altitudes! However, I think that a Bf-110 would be a better choice. Even with having to adjust rudder trim, it's so much more nimble plane than Hs-129. Of course, the 129 supposedly survives ground fire better than the 110... or does it?

As for tail gunners, even if they can't shoot down all the enemy fighters, they provide a second pair of eyes for any ground pounder.

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

The first thing the Gamer thinks of is to MOD the aircraft so it flies to his tastes, maybe a Japanese Zero would be a nice flight model for all the planes?

And zeros themselves shouldn't have stiff controls at high speeds, because zero is the maneuverable plane!!!1

Mods suck.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Janosch

And zeros themselves shouldn't have stiff controls at high speeds, because zero is the maneuverable plane!!!1

Is this a serious statement?

All models of Zero (but in particular the A6M2) had notoriously poor high speed handling. Roll rate in particular was not very good at higher speeds.

[Janosch]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Is this a serious statement?

Nah, I just rambled on about the "gamer" mentality.

One more thing about mods though: they can really improve playability and add variety to certain kind of games, but in Il-2 pretty much all they've done is add some nice graphics, sounds and a few flyable planes of varying quality. Even if there really is something wrong with Hs-129, it'll get fixed soon, since the next patch is coming in 2 weeks, and then it's another 2 weeks until 4.13.

[IceFire]

Got it

[stugumby]

Just curious here, what is the proper prop pitch and manifold settings for the hs 129?? Im stooging about after take off at what guesstimate is 75% pitch 75% power and get going pretty good, radiator 4 ?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by stugumby

Just curious here, what is the proper prop pitch and manifold settings for the hs 129?? Im stooging about after take off at what guesstimate is 75% pitch 75% power and get going pretty good, radiator 4 ?

Most of the time I use the rule of thumb for using 90% pitch and 90% power with rads maybe open to 2 or 4. Sometimes I'll back off the power a bit more but as soon as I'm in attack position I usually increase to 100% pitch and 100% power when needed.

The Hs129 doesn't have a huge power reserve so you need to push the engines sometimes and plan your manoeuvring so that you maintain some energy prior to coming around for another attack.

[1984]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

No matter what, its so sexy looking anyway, especially compared to the IL-2. You could say, its a question of taste, and of course its special, with its duck-like nose and its edgy neck, but hey! - its such a stubborn german design, as much as you can imagine it.

looks really not bad, very typical for german planes (and my opinion exactly here not question of taste because il-2 it's plane for action, it's not designer thing another case maybe mig-3 vs bf 109) and this i can say and about for example fw 187, but personally i want this plane with new level of modelling ie AFM + 3d and something more and it's could be just fantastic...

[Kittle]

One thing I do in all aircraft when I am trying to preserve E is to slack off on prop pitch in a dive. When making your diving approach to a target in the 129, cut the pitch back to 45 - 50%. Your airspeed will climb rapidly as the prop is cause far less drag. Near the bottom of the attack, crank the pitch back up so you can grab more air and make the most of your gained airspeed in converting it to altitude.