why they say a perpetum mobil its imposible what about the drinking bird? - Page 3

Tiger27 · #21 09-11-2012, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by raaaid

yes actually a wheel conected to a solar cell is equivalent to the drinking bird

but that is also a perpetuum mobil as long as theres the sun

you seem educated what about my proposition to thicken a drinking bird a trillion times keeping its height

the pressure gradient will be equal so it should work as well

the sience world has changed the concept of perpetual motion into creation of energy which is very different

we are brainwashed in college that the best engines are by burning fuel and anything better its imposible

even talking of cold fusion makes you look like a crackpot

You have missed the point totally, the description of a perpetual motion device is "motion that continues indefinitely without any external source of energy" your bird has an external source.

The science world hasn't changed anything, without creation of energy how could you have perpetual motion?

raaaid · #22 09-11-2012, 01:37 PM

well if you consider science(modern church) definition a perpetuum mobile is that one that violates the 2nd principle of thermodinamics, as you point it creates energy

im more simple as having studied latin perpetuum mobile means it moves till it dies

just as the drinking bird the only KNOWN thermodinamic engine tha NEEDS NO FUEL

you can make a mercury barometer scaled 10000000000000 times in thickness and would work just as its model

then why not a dinking bird to produce energy?

well the petrochemicals dont want it so they brainwashed people into thinking if its not done its because its no no good, of course not good for them

the amount of energy you can get from this is unlimited just make it thicker, and oh boy did i study thermodinamics and physics

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and thinking way out of the box:

dont you think that ufo in that giant dippy birds video i posted 1st confirms its hot stuff?

Sternjaeger II · #23 09-11-2012, 03:06 PM

winny · #24 09-11-2012, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid

well if you consider science(modern church) definition a perpetuum mobile is that one that violates the 2nd principle of thermodinamics, as you point it creates energy

im more simple as having studied latin perpetuum mobile means it moves till it dies

just as the drinking bird the only KNOWN thermodinamic engine tha NEEDS NO FUEL

you can make a mercury barometer scaled 10000000000000 times in thickness and would work just as its model

then why not a dinking bird to produce energy?

well the petrochemicals dont want it so they brainwashed people into thinking if its not done its because its no no good, of course not good for them

the amount of energy you can get from this is unlimited just make it thicker, and oh boy did i study thermodinamics and physics

edit:

and thinking way out of the box:

dont you think that ufo in that giant dippy birds video i posted 1st confirms its hot stuff?

Forget latin. Your post was in English... Sort of. The recognised definition of perpetual motion is that it will continue forever until somebody or something stops it. By your definition a fruit fly that lives for one day is perpetual... Ridiculous.

Depends on what your definition of fuel is. Dippy birds work because of the chemical contained in the 'abdomen' of the bird. To make giant dippy birds would be financially un-workable. You'd need to produce vast quantities of the chemical, causing environmental issues and incurring large costs. The bigger the bird the longer it would take to 'drink'.

Holding the dippy bird up as some sort of example of a perpetual motion engine is just wrong. It isn't. It isn't as efficient as a solar panel, would cost more to make and the price per kilowatt would be astronomical.

Seriously raaid, as a method of energy production it's a non starter. Dippy birds have been around since the 1940's. If there was anything in it as an energy source somebody (probably the guy who owns the patent) would have done it..

Next....

raaaid · #25 09-12-2012, 01:45 PM

R12 is used by all fridges and is not hazardous

i was wrong about the latin meaning of perpetuum

if you only grow thickness the energy you can get is unlimited

IT HASNT BEEN TRIED

you fell in my prediction you would say if it isnt done it isnt worthy( of course for petrochemicals)

the truth is we BOTH dont know if it could work or not but you gotta admit a huge driniking bird would be cool

Sternjaeger II · #26 09-12-2012, 03:36 PM

then try it and shut up.

raaaid · #27 09-12-2012, 03:50 PM

i have a terrible anhedonia, the only thing that enterteins me its bulletins and maybe gambling though i have no money to do it

no game enterteins me no more, if i was told at 10 i would have all the games of the world but not enjoy them i wouldnt believe it

so i wont shut up

do you thing anhedonia comes with age?

im very suspicious its the antipsicotics side effects

havent you noticed an improvement?

its because i reduced the meds a lot, one of them had a side effect of causing hallucinations

reality is no different than a dream, things just APPEAR to fit

after all why would you call a dream less real thatn reality? just cause is no made of matter?

Sternjaeger II · #28 09-12-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid

i have a terrible anhedonia, the only thing that enterteins me its bulletins and maybe gambling though i have no money to do it

no game enterteins me no more, if i was told at 10 i would have all the games of the world but not enjoy them i wouldnt believe it

so i wont shut up

do you thing anhedonia comes with age?

im very suspicious its the antipsicotics side effects

havent you noticed an improvement?

its because i reduced the meds a lot, one of them had a side effect of causing hallucinations

reality is no different than a dream, things just APPEAR to fit

after all why would you call a dream less real thatn reality? just cause is no made of matter?

what really boggles the mind is that you're still allowed in this forum, or near a PC connected to the internet for the matter..

besides if you really suffer from anhedonia, what are you doing on a gaming forum? Clearly this doesn't satisfy your needs. Go discuss on a gambling forum, I'm sure you'll be warmly welcomed there...