DX9 / XP discussion

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by McFeckit

Would those people who have DX9 PCs please upgrade and save us all from this silly fiasco. Thank you.

The 15% are holding up 100% of the players. Nice.

DX9 Pirated Operating System users got this title stalled.

You just have to wait.

The positive part of going subscription based is we can cancel while we wait.

[hiro]

Thanks B6 for the update!

Thanks for the devs for working on this.


why DX9? Well regardless of why's they just have to do it. That's that.

It's like years ago one had at least 10 different WW 2 air sims and today we have ½ . The ½ is because if you add up DSC P-51, Il-2 1946, this game, as each ww2 sim has major deal breaker issues (outdated, no campaign, one ww2 aircraft to fly, etc) .

So one can bitch, cry, scream or moan wishing they had 10 ww2 sims to pick from, but only waiting will change that. Nothing they can do will hurry this along. Such is with this game and its fixing.

You will have a right to bitch, cry, scream, or moan if the devs just up and left or this iteration of IL-2 series was cancelled.

Heck it would be a neat marketing trick, just say its going away, and the scandal hits hard as a bullet to your chest. Then rest. 2 years later this awesome WW2 sim comes out with legendary aspects and modeling . . .


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DX9 isn't easy to fix. It's legacy code, friggin WIndows XP SP1

Why? New code to legacy code can work, but there is a limit. And legacy code, updated for new, that can only be taken so far.


Case in point was the millennium / Y2K. They didn't expect the code to be used for 2000, as they figured it'd be replaced. Then when 1999 rolls around and there isn't a replacement . . .

It's like getting a P-51 and keeping the design / layout and loading out for modern warfare. Sure you can give it the radar, the electronics, the turbo prop, the 20mm vulcan thru the nose, missiles, some stealth, new materials. And it'd make a great fighter.

But for CAS, the A-10 does it better, for AS, the F-15 can still beat it, for GA, the F-16 or Strike Eagle can smoke it. Its design puts limits on what it can do.

Its design can only be carried to far.

But the airforce is better off simply spec' ing a new fighter (F-22) or new jet for X purpose.

Same with coding and software. Why mucky muck with code that people left years ago?


I'll bet that when Oleg was here, the game we saw that was touted as 1946's sequel was coded for DX9. Afterwards that engine and code wasn't used for some unknown reason.

Then when they rushed with this new stuff (engine, broken-ness, code, and architecture yeah its a word, Americans can invent any English word )
and this is the alpha stuff we're dealing with, that didn't have DX 9 support.

Why? Because the new one works with DX11 because in 2011 / KONY 2012 its Windows 7. Roll back to XP, Uganda be kidding me. Kenya see the similarities between Win 7 and Vista? Because of that DX 10 (which is for Vista) is easier to reach.

And rolling dat sh** back takes time and a skillfull programming. Hence the time it's taking for this DX 9


And the time its taking for this game. Coding is less difficult and less error prone if properly designed, tested, and released.

Fixing nightmare code, is well, anycase its hard to fix and run a recompiler with Mr. Krueger on your tail (this game)

and fixing a walk in the park code with 300 of your buddies and 50 odd so top notch project managers, well let's just say even the dog has it easy with the robot that cleans up after it like all star teams the giants in the gaming business command. ( Blizzard or the conglomerations for MOW:COD or Arma ).




and for those complaining that B6's Frieday updates aren't real updates (no I am not pointing out the dark humor frieday updates, non english mothertrucker do you team speak it? ironic because the game isn't update post attempt at some degree of humor because I am pointing out the generality of some of the many that complain about the updates)

well one of the community's biggest pet peeves was lack of communication. Then more sane / level headed minds said that weekly telling us the patch is beyond the horizon would only induce more complaints.

Well to those complaining about Frieday updates, well you people get a big 'I Told You So' award.

Keep up the Friday updates B6. . .

[He111]

Ta! ..

DX9 !! ppppttttttt!!! if people still rely on that, give them a free copy of 1946! (and dump da b....)

I'm more than willing to chipin for more AI fixes, proper 1946 mission recorder etc

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[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by He111

Ta! ..

DX9 !! ppppttttttt!!! if people still rely on that, give them a free copy of 1946! (and dump da b....)

I'm more than willing to chipin for more AI fixes, proper 1946 mission recorder etc

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They probably all ready own it. Come to think of it many people running XP probably upgraded to vista, then decide to go back to XP for their gaming environment.

If you really are so keen why don't chip in and buy them a copy of Windows 7 or maybe just wait while the developers fullfill their obligation to support their customers.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by BlackSix

A very short update today.

And a very short reply.. 86 DX9!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Do you know how you can tell when even the whiners are tried of whining about the same old thing?

Easy..

Just watch for the point where they turn on each other and begin eating their own!

I'm not sure what ya mean there Ace. My opinion hasn't wavered. I couldn't help noticing your turncoat ways below...

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

And a very short reply.. 86 DX9!

LOL! What a hypocrite. Now even he can't deny the devs BS so he has to attack others as a compensation mechanism.

[lanling]

Recommended to give up the DX9 supportEfforts to support DX11

[lanling]

Recommended to give up the DX9 support

Efforts to support DX11

[yakaddict]

Why don't you just drop dx9 support already? Its 2012 for gods sake, if you are still on a strictly dx9 enabled graphics card then its seriously time to upgrade. Is there something I'm missing here that makes dx9 an integral part of the games support?

[il_corleone]

Originally Posted by yakaddict

Why don't you just drop dx9 support already? Its 2012 for gods sake, if you are still on a strictly dx9 enabled graphics card then its seriously time to upgrade. Is there something I'm missing here that makes dx9 an integral part of the games support?

o god i am laughing, you are rigth, 2 Things, 1 The DX9 its almos OBSOLETE, and the second 2,
Where in the world we are going to run the game decently whit a DX9 system?

Devs, you are talking about 1gb and good hadware, and why are you investing in old tecnhologies?