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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-13-2012, 08:07 PM
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infexibility of planeset? Can you expand on this? Because I am not sure what you mean by that

infexibility of maps? Granted not every inch of euro, let alone all the other areas of conflict are on the map.. But since the majority of WWI air battles, or at least the best known, can be simulated using this map, I don't see how they are infexibil? Also note, RoF is working on a new map as we speak.. So again, not sure what you mean by infexibility
I think you can agree that the DLC systems are very expensive (was invented for this reason ). If we assume that the great majority of users can not buy the whole package because of this, i wonder, how can you make online wars, or historical servers with locked planeset. If the pilots fly only their favorite planes? I don't want this would be the future: couple of huge maps, with 2-3 flyable types...

I dont fly in RoF, i dont know how it work. There is any historical online war? Or historical dogservers? Accurate date and theatre with accurate planeset?
Even if yes, i think, there is much more theatre, much more maps, and much more planes during ww2... lots of maps, lots of machines, even if only collect of your favorites ...
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:34 PM
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I'm just gonna say that I'd rather have a flyable Fiat Cr.42 than an IL-2 and I'd much rather fly over the Mediterranean then over Russian steppe wastelands. Still, I will buy BoM because let's face it, what else is there? RoF? I already own that and it's a great sim, truly is, too bad I have near to 0 interest in WWI kites, I just bought it because I got the Iron Cross Edition something something for 6$ at a sale.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:17 AM
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I think you can agree that the DLC systems are very expensive (was invented for this reason ).
Actually no I can not..

I spend more on gas driving my Jeep to work per day ($35/day) than the most expensive DLC for RoF! Heck I spend more in one night of drinking than the cost of a game!

Heck the price of a game is about the cheapest entertainment I can think of! Especially when you look at all the hours of enjoyment you get out of it!

But that is just me and my costs.. Lets relate this to all simmers

For example.. A movie cost you about $10.. And the movie only lasts about 2 hours..

That is $5 per hour form of entertainment!

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$5/hr = $10/2hr
Where as a game cost about $50.. but you can play it for hundreds of hours..

For example.. IL-2.. There were what.. 4 or 5 sequels to IL-2? So lets say you bought all of them.. So over the past 10 years you have spent $250 ( 5 x $50 ).. Now lets say you played 3hrs a day every Saturday and Sunday for the past 10 years..

That is an 8 cent per hour form of entertainment!

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520 weekends = 52 weekends/year x 10 years
3120hr = 520 weekends x 6hr/weekend
8cents/hr = $250/3120hr
And that is just the cost of the software itself.. It all becomes comical once you take into account the $ spent on the computer to play the $50 game!

To make an analogy, it is like complaining about the cost of the $10 movie as you are driving your $30k car to the movie!

Long story short.. expensive is 'relative'! Thus the price argument does not really hold much water IMHO! Playing flight sims has always been a expensive hobby.. and of those expenses the cost of the game is the least expensive item needed to play a flight sim
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:27 PM
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New content is allways nice.. And as 1C has stated, new content will be handled the same way it was done with IL-2.. i.e. sequals

Personally I like the RoF method better, where you pay for individual items.. The nice thing about the RoF method is you get a quicker turn around on new content, and you can pick and choose the content that is important to you
I agree
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New content is allways nice.. And as 1C has stated, new content will be handled the same way it was done with IL-2.. i.e. sequals

Personally I like the RoF method better, where you pay for individual items.. The nice thing about the RoF method is you get a quicker turn around on new content, and you can pick and choose the content that is important to you
Finally something i agree with.
I would pay good money for a IL2 style COOP set up.
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I also prefer the RoF model. A steady supply of new planes is better than occasional sequels.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:44 PM
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Ive said it manytimes as have others.. my money is on the table, I'm keen to buy whatever is on offer within reason
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