Unflyables - why?

[csThor]

The blind faith in "once the SDK comes the modders will do their part" is kinda amusing. The complexity of objects in CloD is considerably higher than in 1946 and even there the overwhelming majority of the modded objects did not fulfill the specifications (i.e. lack of shadow models, incomplete LODs, way-beyond-the-scales number of polys etc etc). Sorry, but for miracles you better refer to BenedictXVI(at)vatican.va ...

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of free stuff. But if I can get a modder to produce 2 planes in 6 months instead of 1 by paying them, I think it's worth paying them.

Then I guess there will be something for everyone......I don't see where the debate is?

The blind faith in "once the SDK comes the modders will do their part" is kinda amusing.

not so much blind faith.....once there is an SDK then modders 'WILL' mod whether they charge or do it for free.

[ElAurens]

With the current level of complexity there is no modder that could produce 2 models every six months, paid or not. Unless you really like Frankenplanes and a lot of that junk that is out there in the mod world. (not all, but a lot of it.)

As I said, it has taken 2 years to get the B24 to the point of almost being ready to release, and it's not anywhere close to CLOD specs.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Then I guess there will be something for everyone......I don't see where the debate is?

There isn't really a debate. I just think we could get more content by paying people, and you think modders will produce enough for free. I'll be pretty happen if I am proven wrong.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

With the current level of complexity there is no modder that could produce 2 models every six months, paid or not. Unless you really like Frankenplanes and a lot of that junk that is out there in the mod world. (not all, but a lot of it.)

As I said, it has taken 2 years to get the B24 to the point of almost being ready to release, and it's not anywhere close to CLOD specs.

Agreed, I do CAD modelling myself and I don't think ppl realize just how much time effort and research has gone into the cockpits.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

There isn't really a debate. I just think we could get more content by paying people, and you think modders will produce enough for free. I'll be pretty happen if I am proven wrong.

Too many people try and cast things in stone here, it's not about being proven right or wrong.

the fact is an SDK has been mentioned, that means one way or another mods will be produced, who how when where are all just something we will wait to see.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Agreed, I do CAD modelling myself and I don't think ppl realize just how much time effort and research has gone into the cockpits.

I am also a modder for a lesser known flight sim serries, so yes I do know what goes into it.....I do it for free, if I get to grips with the COD SDK and have the chance to make a good mod it will also be free.

[ElAurens]

bongodriver,

I hope that you get the chance, honestly I do.

I'll take one Gladiator cockpit please.


At least I didn't ask for all the crew stations on the Sunderland.

[csThor]

What ElAurens said. I'm not arguing against using the SDK, mind you, I am argueing against the obvious believe in the fairy tale that once the SDK is out the mods will appear as if by magic, creating a land where milk and honey flows and grilled doves fly straight into the player's mouth.

Working for CloD will be a serious undertaking, both in time and development input, and it will require a lot more details to make them approach the quality and depth of the systems that MG has already modeled. It may take years for real quality to appear ... Just saying.

[bongodriver]

What ElAurens said. I'm not arguing against using the SDK, mind you, I am argueing against the obvious believe in the fairy tale that once the SDK is out the mods will appear as if by magic, creating a land where milk and honey flows and grilled doves fly straight into the player's mouth.

But you have to admit you are overexaggerating this particular perception of yours, nobody is making anything like those claims.