IL2 and Sound Modding

[sparty72]

Just so we understand each other Carguy!

" Ps ..dont shout at me...means nowt! ... ive heard ducks fart before!
As far as I`m concerned you`re not even looking for sensible answers."


That statement is meant to convoy.. simply....dont shout at me calling me a hacker etc cus ive heard it all before and im not interested... and thank you for answering anyway..The question WAS asked in all seriousness !!! does that help?

Best Regards

Sparty

[Billfish]

Would it be fair, or make me a cheater in online play if I did the following to my sim software and others did not thinking we were on a level playing field and trying to keep it that way.

* Altered default skins to look different then normal, be they historical or arcade (Chartruse for German, Flourecent Pink for British, etc.), and or could highlight hitbox area's.....That ability why M.G. hardcoded default skins.
* Altered canopies to be different then how others saw them even making current obstructions in view gone.
* Altered cockpit components to improve view from in the plane, reducing or removing head rests and the like an example.
* Altered canopy glass and gunsights to be able to see better through them.
* Altered gunsights to have less obstructive reticles, even reducing or enhancing their brightness.
* Altered gunsights to be gyro stabilized and compensating to help me place my rounds more accurately.
* Altered bombsights to see clearly at a greater range.
* Altered early scope type sights to not black out the surrounding area.
* Added mirrors to planes that did not have them "in the sim", so I would have use of them when others did not.
* Had the ability to move about the cockpit more then others to improve my view, possibly even to impossible extremes, and with non existent parts of the cockpit making windows through it.
* Made planes and ground objects more visible to me via increasing reflectivity.
* Made visual cues as to other planes show better and longer even at further ranges by making smoke, fuel leaks and contrails more visible, lasting longer before fading and able to see them at greater ranges.
* Made planes and ground objects more visible at greater ranges, be it through improving dot range, or when such objects would show to me.
* Made terrain more visible at greater ranges helping in navigation.
* Made sounds distinctive so I could easily tell from inside a noisy cockpit what types of planes were near and weapons being fired and so on.
* Made sounds give greater audible cues as to the activity around me and its proximity to me.
* Had fire extinguishers in planes that others did not.
* Could see exaust flames (even though many planes had dampers) from other aircraft to help aid in spotting during low light conditions.
* Reduced my own gunflashes to not blind me, and or increased how I'd see others to aid in visual cues.
* Altered the torque of my engine....More giving me quicker rolls, less more stability .
* Etc. the list goes on........

......and I'll not even touch on altering weapons loadouts, types, FMs, DM,s and so on....


So, if I used any of the above in online play when others did not...........Would it be cheating? (careful of your responses as to say others would be suckers not to, or think not informs others as to your expected fair play).

[wgvette]

Billfish,
As I said before:

"No the only problem that exists is when someone uses the mod to deliberately change an aspect of his/her aircraft capabilities for online play against unaltered opponents. Then and only then does one become a cheat and that is the crux of the matter."

I guess I would have to say that doing what you said would be cheating. But, again only in online play.

What someone does with thier game in the privacy of thier own home, I could care less about.

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by wgvette

Billfish,
As I said before:

"No the only problem that exists is when someone uses the mod to deliberately change an aspect of his/her aircraft capabilities for online play against unaltered opponents. Then and only then does one become a cheat and that is the crux of the matter."

I guess I would have to say that doing what you said would be cheating. But, again only in online play.

What someone does with thier game in the privacy of thier own home, I could care less about.

Agree 100%........Hence the problem, as many of the mods shift the advantage unfairly "online".....What many fail to realize yet Oleg stated often, aspects of the sim sometimes had to be balanced either due to the engine or fair play (what was the majority of aircraft like).

......and to state EVERYONE should then use the mods online is like stating EVERYONE should do a wrong to make it right, this naturally not even touching on true cheaters, who do things simply to gain an edge which I accuse no one here of being yet we know they exist.

Trouble is, many of the mods never the less result in unbalancing the field......Let alone making it easier for the cheaters.

[FA_Retro-Burn]

This thread is getting old.... Let's move on people.

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by FA_Retro-Burn

This thread is getting old.... Let's move on people.

Said that already, but people (from both sides of the argument) won't let it, sad really innit?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

The problem is that the on-liners have so alienated the mod community with all their petty, childish insults that they could care less by now to do anything for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[sparty72]

Originally Posted by kristorf

Said that already, but people (from both sides of the argument) won't let it, sad really innit?

Chris..get the frying pan m8...the tabs have stopped workin! ( i shoulda listened to ya threads n threads ago)

[robtek]

sparty, chris,

nobody told you that you have to follow this thread.
if you dont like it, dont read it.
if you dont contribute bore someone else.
we are having fun here.
robtek

[sparty72]

Nah..its interesting but thanks !!