ROF is out on may 7th

Originally Posted by zapatista

boring ....

most people here that i know whom are interested in flightsims wont be buying it because its an online game only

pretty lame idea, i think they already lost 50% of their market before it is even released

when it functions like any other game you can play whenever and wherever it suits the person who purchased it, let me know. looking at the screenshots it also looks a very dated gfx engine, like a souped up version of il2. and i wont be giving them another 50$ each time they bring out a new plane either

your talking about a cake you never tried...pffttt..go home and upgrade your net

[nearmiss]

WWI aircraft just never interested me. I bought the Red Baron and other titles, but I got so bored so quick.

The planes were slow, firepower was weak, the battlefields were small and depressing with all the trench warfare and such.

When I was a kid I like to build the WWI Spads and such as model airplanes, because you could get those little mosquitos to manuever like crazy.

Online game only just tells me there are many things that make a great air combat sim that are not in the package.

Thanks, but no thanks to the early era of flight, online or offline.

Give me a powerful 109-G2 with some gunpods and cannon... now that's a package to do airwarfare.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

your talking about a cake you never tried...pffttt..go home and upgrade your net

you seem to think that whatever limited reality exists in your own mind, makes you understand how the rest of the world functions without having ever seen it

no, not everything Turd wants to play with is automatically of any interest to others. and with the 2mb cable access i have the web access doesnt need to be upgraded, so thats not what it is about, odd eh

i think the scenery and 3D world looks pretty crappy, and being forced to always be on a pc that is connected 24/7 to the internet is just not convenient, not giving offline play is idiotic to. most il2 buyers play it ofline and never even ventured online (going by oleg's previously stated statistics)

seems like a con trick to me, they didnt mention it during development at all, and i betcha they wont clearly label it on the game box either so people will be conned into buying something they dont want or cant use 90% of the time.

[Feathered_IV]

If it is so obviously not for you, why do you keep banging on about it? Wouldn't it be a better use of your time to just go away???

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

If it is so obviously not for you, why do you keep banging on about it? Wouldn't it be a better use of your time to just go away???

you might not have spotted this, but you'r in an il2/BoB forum, which emm , err , you know, is for discussing il2 and BoB related products that we emm, err ..., as il2/BoB customers like or want to discuss.

doesnt mean you have to start clapping every time a flying turd comes past and we have to discuss its flight modeling, just because its an airborne object and you are in a flightsim forum

if its a flying turd, lets just call it a flying turd

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

your talking about a cake you never tried...pffttt..go home and upgrade your net

Actually Tree is correct. I have the cake and I've eaten it too!

[virre89]

Originally Posted by zapatista

boring ....

most people here that i know whom are interested in flightsims wont be buying it because its an online game only

pretty lame idea, i think they already lost 50% of their market before it is even released

when it functions like any other game you can play whenever and wherever it suits the person who purchased it, let me know. looking at the screenshots it also looks a very dated gfx engine, like a souped up version of il2. and i wont be giving them another 50$ each time they bring out a new plane either

So it's boring just because their policy doesn't suit you?

First of all you're statement is nothing but a child's post crying out loud, the game doesn't use the IL2 engine, the game utilize some of the latest graphic/engine/physics solutions on the market. If you've any knowledge about development, hardware & software you'd know but of course you had to bash it since the DRM doesn't suit you.

As for the sales thing, they've without no doubt lost customers however it's not near as much as 50%, it's more or less just a way for you to make yourself feel better about it. A more exact number would probably be around 5% of the potential customers has been lost. Truth is that today the majority of gamers are connected to the internet 24/7 , however many won't utilize it for gaming online BUT that doesn't mean that they don't have a broad band connection.

Their choice of online authenticity ain't anything new it's been utilized in games for the past 10 years, it's no secret that the simulation market would be moving here sooner or later and it's a good thing indeed. Sure some of the buyers might not buy it simply because they don't have an broadband connection which would render the game useless since it requires an online connection.

Then there's the argument about wither or not the product could become useless if the servers are shutdown and you couldn't play whenever you want. Tell ya what you pay for the internet , it can go time at any time , heck you pay for the electricity it can go down at any time as well, seriously even your house could collapse on you theres no guarantee for anything here in the world.

Have some faith in the developers for god sake, and even if their servers would go down for maintenance whats the big deal. The the question pops up again; what if it goes down forever?

So be it, but don't you think the developers have thought about the future. Removing the login system wouldn't be a hard task for such a talented team and if the worst case scenario would become true they'd just remove it and wola you can play you're SP all day long for eternity just like Mass Effect.

I tell you this, if you wanna miss out on such a great title just because of the copy protection so be it, you're loss dude and you won't be missed.
Truth is the once that were gonna buy it and really want it they buy it no matter what protection it has, i for once wouldn't miss out on it just because such a lame complaint.

[robtek]

It is very interesting how people are stirred up to defend a bad solution.
One might say: where there is smoke there must be flames!
There has been not one sound argument pro that drm cr@p but many to
depreciate the people who are against it.
Something that has to be defended in this form isn´t worth the time to write this sentences.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by virre89

As for the sales thing, they've without no doubt lost customers however it's not near as much as 50%, it's more or less just a way for you to make yourself feel better about it. A more exact number would probably be around 5% of the potential customers has been lost.

Do you remember this thread?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=6642

That says 50% of the people who cared enough to vote, won't be buying it.

[virre89]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

Do you remember this thread?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=6642

That says 50% of the people who cared enough to vote, won't be buying it.

You base it on one vote poll at 1c forums with 60 participants?
Try the poll at a the RoF community and you'd get 90% buyers votes instead so just to make it clear these polls doesn't justify the sales by any means, and we hanging around these forums doesn't make up for the majority of the customers anyway. But sure i could go and receive a 90% won't buy cod4 in a poll if placed it right by all means.. such as at a simulation forum..