I hate the wrong data in Il2 strmovik 1946

[SlipBall]

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[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

They were in bf109 g2 and I in a fw190-D9, fighting to 6000 meters, the bf109 g2 was clearly faster than my fw 190 d9. Why it happens?

The difference at this altitude between the two planes is ca 30 km/h (for the D-9), different radiator flap settings, slideslip, a tiny bit of climb while the others are level or descending, having a droptank rack etc. can easily account for such difference.

[MOH_Hirth]

In my old post i test Ta-152c at 6000.............475KM/h and FW A9 480km/h = wrong

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by MOH_Hirth

In my old post i test Ta-152c at 6000.............475KM/h and FW A9 480km/h = wrong

if it is insane to think that an FW190A9 is faster than a TA 152, whether it was the replacement of Fw190 D9, Oleg data is very wrong, but the LA is a magic plane

[K_Freddie]

What I think you're missing with regard to the modelling, are the aircraft relative performances. This has been modelled pretty well.

I might ask you at what difficulty settings and which map are you testing your planes. Crimea is the official test map, and I would think 100% setting would be the test reality.

Another point about 'reality' is that there is only data on paper to go by, plus a few relic aircraft. And then old veteran's comments, which invariably are biased.
So all-in-all, You now have the best combat prop-sim in your hands - period ( Most probably the the worlds best sim).

And of course you can always throw the disks in the bin - just make sure you don't empty the bin, coz you will be digging into the bin after a few weeks (of MSFSim, LockOn, other inferior products ).

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by K_Freddie

And of course you can always throw the disks in the bin - just make sure you don't empty the bin, coz you will be digging into the bin after a few weeks (of MSFSim, LockOn, other inferior products ).

Life way too short to hate and in this stage of the IL2 life cycle there is very little chance (Bucklies to none!) of any official updates of the flight models.

As Freddie says there's plenty of other sims out there to try.

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[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

if it is insane to think that an FW190A9 is faster than a TA 152, whether it was the replacement of Fw190 D9, Oleg data is very wrong, but the LA is a magic plane

Google TA152 and find out more details... as an example from the 1940 Bob period in comparing Spit-vs-ME109. the a/c were very similar on most respects and one outperformed the other at different altitudes and tactics....

with regard to the LA... you really must make up you mind about Oleg's data..

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

They were in bf109 g2 and I in a fw190-D9, fighting to 6000 meters, the bf109 g2 was clearly faster than my fw 190 d9. Why it happens?

FW190-D9 is faster than BF109-G2 at 6000m in level flight in game. The difference is about 75km/h of TAS.

What happened? Maybe you didn't turn WEP on or didn't keep the ball centered; or maybe they had more potential energy and just converted it to kinetic while diving on you. Also, don't think that faster planes climbs or turns better

[Kwiatek]

IL2 1946 has quite good engine to make FM of existing planed quite accurate to IRL contempares. Unfortuanately Oleg Maddox Team made many seroius bug in data of many planes. I dont know if 1C used only russian books to model planes or so. Oleg Maddox many times said that something is not possible to make in these engine or is very hard to make or it needed a lot of time. Its simple untrue. I can repeat for sure actual engine of these game IL2 1946 allow to make quite very accurate perfomance of planes. But it needs to get correct data and put it into engine. See that there are many planes that represents very well RL perfomance. But also there are many which are bugged and have incorect data. I surly know that many thing could be done but they hasn't done. Of course that its hard to find good data for many WW2 warbirds. But community really had many information, datas etc. about these planes. The point is to get these data and use it correctly into engine of these game. These is the point.

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ

FW190-D9 is faster than BF109-G2 at 6000m in level flight in game. The difference is about 75km/h of TAS.

What happened? Maybe you didn't turn WEP on or didn't keep the ball centered; or maybe they had more potential energy and just converted it to kinetic while diving on you. Also, don't think that faster planes climbs or turns better

test yourslef

Originally Posted by Kwiatek

IL2 1946 has quite good engine to make FM of existing planed quite accurate to IRL contempares. Unfortuanately Oleg Maddox Team made many seroius bug in data of many planes. I dont know if 1C used only russian books to model planes or so. Oleg Maddox many times said that something is not possible to make in these engine or is very hard to make or it needed a lot of time. Its simple untrue. I can repeat for sure actual engine of these game IL2 1946 allow to make quite very accurate perfomance of planes. But it needs to get correct data and put it into engine. See that there are many planes that represents very well RL perfomance. But also there are many which are bugged and have incorect data. I surly know that many thing could be done but they hasn't done. Of course that its hard to find good data for many WW2 warbirds. But community really had many information, datas etc. about these planes. The point is to get these data and use it correctly into engine of these game. These is the point.

that is true